1 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:07,280 the planets thought the Masters almost 2 00:00:11,390 --> 00:00:09,090 surely have a plan 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:11,400 this clearly may be something near 4 00:00:18,050 --> 00:00:13,890 beyond the realm of man 5 00:00:20,660 --> 00:00:18,060 I already tested every last question I'm 6 00:00:38,030 --> 00:00:20,670 fine boy you think you know the less you 7 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,870 aside 8 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:45,150 all right people we know the shadowy 9 00:00:48,990 --> 00:00:47,110 elite have dedicated many pages in their 10 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:49,000 playbook to suppressing information 11 00:00:52,530 --> 00:00:51,280 technology and scientific advancements 12 00:00:54,060 --> 00:00:52,540 that could improve the lives of the 13 00:00:56,190 --> 00:00:54,070 people and help us better understand 14 00:00:58,290 --> 00:00:56,200 reality but those of us who are paying 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:00:58,300 attention have recognized the scientific 16 00:01:02,430 --> 00:01:00,370 quarantine and seen many indications of 17 00:01:04,350 --> 00:01:02,440 the big suppression along the way the 18 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:04,360 work of Nikola Tesla denial of 19 00:01:09,060 --> 00:01:06,580 electrogravitic crafts lost legends of 20 00:01:10,650 --> 00:01:09,070 alchemy the lies of NASA whispers of a 21 00:01:12,690 --> 00:01:10,660 breakaway civilization and the 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:12,700 free-energy cancer cure technologies 23 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:14,050 we've heard exist but have been 24 00:01:18,030 --> 00:01:16,720 thoroughly kibosh for our own good we 25 00:01:19,710 --> 00:01:18,040 know there's hidden truth is in these 26 00:01:21,690 --> 00:01:19,720 areas and that mainstream science is 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:21,700 incomplete and here to help us piece the 28 00:01:25,170 --> 00:01:23,050 puzzle back together as an independent 29 00:01:27,510 --> 00:01:25,180 researcher known only as the Shema 30 00:01:29,609 --> 00:01:27,520 engineer for over a decade he's worked 31 00:01:31,889 --> 00:01:29,619 in a variety of industries on robotics 32 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:31,899 manufacturing equipment chemical systems 33 00:01:35,310 --> 00:01:33,369 and alternative energy and he knows 34 00:01:37,230 --> 00:01:35,320 firsthand that were being held back in 35 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:37,240 more ways than one after a few 36 00:01:40,980 --> 00:01:39,130 interesting posts on the Plus forums he 37 00:01:43,260 --> 00:01:40,990 contacted me directly through the THC 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:43,270 plus messaging system with a ton of 39 00:01:47,010 --> 00:01:45,250 titillating research and information 40 00:01:49,290 --> 00:01:47,020 that I think will make an excellent show 41 00:01:51,059 --> 00:01:49,300 I know I've had my mind blown more than 42 00:01:52,859 --> 00:01:51,069 a few times already and I can't wait to 43 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:52,869 get back into this stuff and his first 44 00:01:56,820 --> 00:01:54,490 real interview coming out of the shadows 45 00:01:59,219 --> 00:01:56,830 nah under the mainstage sure mangia near 46 00:02:01,169 --> 00:01:59,229 my man welcome to the higher side thank 47 00:02:04,350 --> 00:02:01,179 you very much Greg that's a great intro 48 00:02:05,850 --> 00:02:04,360 as always I try man's one of the few 49 00:02:08,279 --> 00:02:05,860 jobs a host has that they should 50 00:02:10,050 --> 00:02:08,289 actually put some energy into but this 51 00:02:12,510 --> 00:02:10,060 is exciting man people have requested 52 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:12,520 many times that maybe I have a listener 53 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:14,500 or a member from the forums on as a 54 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:16,480 guest and I've been pretty resistant to 55 00:02:20,610 --> 00:02:18,730 it but you hit me with some super 56 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:20,620 fascinating stuff and have connected a 57 00:02:25,199 --> 00:02:22,930 lot of dots between previous guests and 58 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:25,209 topics that have really been some of my 59 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:27,280 favorite and a lot of this revolves 60 00:02:32,100 --> 00:02:29,890 around ether I guess this idea that many 61 00:02:33,570 --> 00:02:32,110 bright minds used to include in their 62 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:33,580 model of the universe but mainstream 63 00:02:38,729 --> 00:02:36,010 science has taken out most likely 64 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:38,739 because of its huge potential and we're 65 00:02:42,690 --> 00:02:40,959 now given a model of space as an empty 66 00:02:45,390 --> 00:02:42,700 void literally nothing to see here 67 00:02:47,130 --> 00:02:45,400 people and I guess this ties into a lot 68 00:02:49,290 --> 00:02:47,140 of other areas but lay us a base here 69 00:02:52,890 --> 00:02:49,300 what is being proposed in this dynamic 70 00:02:55,690 --> 00:02:52,900 ether Theory well I should just start 71 00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:55,700 with what ether is 72 00:03:01,750 --> 00:02:59,840 just in itself sure I mean people say oh 73 00:03:03,309 --> 00:03:01,760 I pull stuff out of the ether you've 74 00:03:06,220 --> 00:03:03,319 said that on your show several times 75 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:06,230 that guilty and so it's in the DOMA 76 00:03:11,460 --> 00:03:08,720 nature people say it but they don't 77 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:11,470 really understand what it means so 78 00:03:18,370 --> 00:03:14,900 there's kind of a nebulous understanding 79 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:18,380 of it as this other space or something 80 00:03:23,170 --> 00:03:21,650 like that and the understanding doesn't 81 00:03:25,710 --> 00:03:23,180 really go much beyond that sometimes 82 00:03:29,589 --> 00:03:25,720 people will build into the actual 83 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:29,599 scientific background of it but not very 84 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:32,890 deep because we're always told that 85 00:03:38,710 --> 00:03:36,170 general relativity just put the kibosh 86 00:03:41,289 --> 00:03:38,720 on that it's all done with you don't 87 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:41,299 need to worry about ether just worry 88 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:45,200 about relativity and space-time is a 89 00:03:52,089 --> 00:03:48,410 good analogy to the ether actually 90 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:52,099 because that is the modern either it's 91 00:03:57,850 --> 00:03:55,760 what we use in our conception for a way 92 00:04:00,550 --> 00:03:57,860 for light to bend and things like that 93 00:04:04,090 --> 00:04:00,560 which is actually covered in the ether 94 00:04:06,940 --> 00:04:04,100 theory mm-hmm so ether is the medium of 95 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:06,950 light in the ether model it composes 96 00:04:14,650 --> 00:04:11,650 matter and it gives rise to gravity so 97 00:04:16,330 --> 00:04:14,660 gravity in the ether model is 98 00:04:19,539 --> 00:04:16,340 essentially a flow of either 99 00:04:21,550 --> 00:04:19,549 if you imagine kind of a fluid flowing 100 00:04:25,540 --> 00:04:21,560 past you and holding you down to the 101 00:04:28,930 --> 00:04:25,550 earth that's an analogy but it's kind of 102 00:04:32,710 --> 00:04:28,940 a spatial fluid okay so this is just 103 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:32,720 broad strokes what might either be 104 00:04:41,110 --> 00:04:36,610 conceived of that's ether with an e 105 00:04:46,270 --> 00:04:41,120 there's also what's discussed a either 106 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:46,280 the ae4 version of that word right and 107 00:04:54,190 --> 00:04:49,849 it's for the undifferentiated ether it's 108 00:04:57,790 --> 00:04:54,200 the ether that is more an informational 109 00:04:59,860 --> 00:04:57,800 ether the thought space there's actually 110 00:05:03,610 --> 00:04:59,870 this relationship between the two ethers 111 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:03,620 where one gives rise to the other the 112 00:05:09,210 --> 00:05:05,840 undifferentiated ether gives rise to the 113 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:09,220 differentiated either that relationship 114 00:05:16,980 --> 00:05:12,810 can account for the transition from 115 00:05:19,980 --> 00:05:16,990 material to energy to information okay 116 00:05:22,980 --> 00:05:19,990 and these are the main levels of how 117 00:05:26,580 --> 00:05:22,990 modeling occurs in any science so you 118 00:05:29,370 --> 00:05:26,590 have to take account of matter energy 119 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:29,380 and information and how those all 120 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:31,090 transpose there's there's actually 121 00:05:37,860 --> 00:05:34,450 something called Maxwell's demon which 122 00:05:40,380 --> 00:05:37,870 is the concept of being able to make an 123 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:40,390 information change having that give rise 124 00:05:48,270 --> 00:05:44,890 to energy and so Maxwell's demon is what 125 00:05:51,150 --> 00:05:48,280 prevents you from doing that but there 126 00:05:54,330 --> 00:05:51,160 was recent experiments a few years ago 127 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:54,340 where they they actually claimed to have 128 00:06:00,330 --> 00:05:57,970 quantum leap I asked Maxwell's demon so 129 00:06:02,670 --> 00:06:00,340 there's implications right there for 130 00:06:04,890 --> 00:06:02,680 things like free energy and stuff like 131 00:06:06,540 --> 00:06:04,900 that and also that would fit with the 132 00:06:09,270 --> 00:06:06,550 ether model being able to do something 133 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:09,280 like that because that would include a 134 00:06:16,190 --> 00:06:12,510 larger informational space beyond our 135 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:16,200 stated reality our observable reality 136 00:06:25,380 --> 00:06:21,190 that's kind of a base conception of how 137 00:06:27,390 --> 00:06:25,390 all this relates to everything from what 138 00:06:31,740 --> 00:06:27,400 you can touch to what you think mm-hmm 139 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:31,750 right on so yeah it's definitely dense 140 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:34,330 stuff and you know as you mentioned in 141 00:06:38,310 --> 00:06:35,890 our conversation I've had a lot of 142 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:38,320 guests who allude to a secret science 143 00:06:43,020 --> 00:06:40,750 and an incomplete puzzle but a lot of 144 00:06:45,330 --> 00:06:43,030 the dots have kind of yet to really 145 00:06:48,420 --> 00:06:45,340 connect and this is the answer as you 146 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:48,430 see it right yeah once I start to get 147 00:06:52,110 --> 00:06:49,840 into the history I'm going to get to 148 00:06:54,090 --> 00:06:52,120 that later but you'll see that ether 149 00:06:57,690 --> 00:06:54,100 theory is really what has given rise to 150 00:07:01,920 --> 00:06:57,700 those technologies and it didn't start 151 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:01,930 in you know the 1940s after World War 152 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:05,680 two it started much earlier and it has 153 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:08,230 roots going all the way into the 154 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:12,130 Renaissance hmm Perseids it's something 155 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:14,290 that you know once you start to get into 156 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:16,750 the understanding of alchemy and how 157 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:18,970 that fits into the ether model then 158 00:07:22,540 --> 00:07:20,410 they'll that will start to make a bit 159 00:07:25,930 --> 00:07:22,550 more sense right on so 160 00:07:28,140 --> 00:07:25,940 you know if we call the air or the the 161 00:07:32,460 --> 00:07:28,150 atmosphere or whatever we call it ether 162 00:07:35,950 --> 00:07:32,470 well that's not really correct so air is 163 00:07:38,230 --> 00:07:35,960 an atomic structure it's a molecular 164 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:38,240 structure action okay yeah so all these 165 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:40,400 different atoms and molecules but the 166 00:07:45,940 --> 00:07:43,250 ether is like the fluid of space it's 167 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:45,950 the electric fluid as Faraday called it 168 00:07:52,980 --> 00:07:51,170 okay so sure yeah I'm this is fairly new 169 00:07:57,190 --> 00:07:52,990 to me in terms of the actual 170 00:07:59,500 --> 00:07:57,200 nomenclature in terms but why should you 171 00:08:01,510 --> 00:07:59,510 know why should a listener care what are 172 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:01,520 the implications of this understanding 173 00:08:08,830 --> 00:08:04,760 of the environment kind of as opposed to 174 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:08,840 the traditional one basically the 175 00:08:14,970 --> 00:08:12,130 current scientific model is extremely 176 00:08:17,350 --> 00:08:14,980 materialistic it's it's based on 177 00:08:20,650 --> 00:08:17,360 observations that are very strictly 178 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:20,660 defined in terms of being able to be 179 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:23,090 explained in a rational way with 180 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:25,610 material models everything boils down to 181 00:08:31,030 --> 00:08:29,090 particles even dark matter that's 182 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:31,040 something we can't observe but yet oh 183 00:08:39,070 --> 00:08:35,930 well it must be matter right so do you 184 00:08:42,930 --> 00:08:39,080 want to get into maybe some of the best 185 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:42,940 scientific evidence for the ether model 186 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:46,610 sure so I'll go ahead and start with a 187 00:08:52,210 --> 00:08:49,040 you quotes from Tesla and Einstein 188 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:52,220 because at the time of Einstein 189 00:08:58,510 --> 00:08:55,310 proposing relativity Tesla was one of 190 00:09:03,160 --> 00:08:58,520 the main objectives to his model and so 191 00:09:07,180 --> 00:09:03,170 you'll see a bit of his own idea of what 192 00:09:09,430 --> 00:09:07,190 was going on the time so today's 193 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:09,440 scientists have substituted mathematics 194 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:11,090 for experiments and they wander off 195 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:13,010 through equation after equation and 196 00:09:15,940 --> 00:09:14,330 eventually build a structure which has 197 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:15,950 no relation to reality 198 00:09:21,220 --> 00:09:19,370 that's what Nikola Tesla said hmm now 199 00:09:24,220 --> 00:09:21,230 I'm going to give some quotes from 200 00:09:26,460 --> 00:09:24,230 Albert Einstein on the ether because 201 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:26,470 most people don't realize this but 202 00:09:31,390 --> 00:09:29,510 relativity requires an ether and and 203 00:09:34,210 --> 00:09:31,400 Albert Einstein actually said that and 204 00:09:35,950 --> 00:09:34,220 these quotes will illustrate that the 205 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:35,960 special theory of relativity does not 206 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:36,410 compel 207 00:09:40,449 --> 00:09:38,810 to deny we may assume the existence of 208 00:09:44,379 --> 00:09:40,459 an either only we must give up 209 00:09:47,470 --> 00:09:44,389 describing a definite motion to it ie we 210 00:09:49,660 --> 00:09:47,480 must take by extraction from it the last 211 00:09:52,030 --> 00:09:49,670 mechanical characteristic which Lorenz 212 00:09:55,749 --> 00:09:52,040 had still left it so what he's saying 213 00:09:59,410 --> 00:09:55,759 there is that I am using an ether model 214 00:10:02,069 --> 00:09:59,420 but this ether can't move so that's 215 00:10:05,829 --> 00:10:02,079 where we get the idea of curvature of 216 00:10:09,069 --> 00:10:05,839 space-time curvature that gravitational 217 00:10:11,439 --> 00:10:09,079 lensing bending light around objects and 218 00:10:15,790 --> 00:10:11,449 things like that it comes from this idea 219 00:10:19,780 --> 00:10:15,800 that you can't have things moving in 220 00:10:21,429 --> 00:10:19,790 terms of space-time really and then 221 00:10:23,889 --> 00:10:21,439 here's another quote from Albert 222 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:23,899 Einstein it would be a great advance if 223 00:10:26,980 --> 00:10:25,610 we can succeed in comprehending the 224 00:10:28,929 --> 00:10:26,990 gravitational field and the 225 00:10:31,780 --> 00:10:28,939 electromagnetic field together as one 226 00:10:33,819 --> 00:10:31,790 unified confirmation then for the first 227 00:10:36,249 --> 00:10:33,829 time in the epoch of theoretical physics 228 00:10:38,319 --> 00:10:36,259 founded by Faraday and Maxwell we would 229 00:10:40,269 --> 00:10:38,329 reach a satisfactory conclusion the 230 00:10:44,170 --> 00:10:40,279 contrast between ether and matter which 231 00:10:49,569 --> 00:10:44,180 bade obey so even Einstein recognizes 232 00:10:51,309 --> 00:10:49,579 that ether and matter are related then 233 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:51,319 that there's a kind of a transmutation 234 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:53,630 going on between there that's out what I 235 00:10:59,160 --> 00:10:55,970 think what he was talking about in his e 236 00:11:00,970 --> 00:10:59,170 equals mc-squared equation hmm 237 00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:00,980 interesting yeah I love getting the 238 00:11:06,309 --> 00:11:03,649 context for those old quotes because it 239 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:06,319 seems like our modern interpretation has 240 00:11:12,249 --> 00:11:09,170 gotten way away from even what the guys 241 00:11:14,949 --> 00:11:12,259 were saying at the time and it's just 242 00:11:18,069 --> 00:11:14,959 kind of weird how we leave out some of 243 00:11:20,769 --> 00:11:18,079 even their questions about you know what 244 00:11:22,210 --> 00:11:20,779 remains but I guess another part of this 245 00:11:23,999 --> 00:11:22,220 we should talk about is what is ether 246 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:24,009 drift 247 00:11:30,340 --> 00:11:28,250 so I'll start real quickly with what 248 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:30,350 kind of gave rise to the model of the 249 00:11:36,429 --> 00:11:33,680 ether that the either drift experiments 250 00:11:40,420 --> 00:11:36,439 were trying to look after if you think 251 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:40,430 about sound traveling in air or water 252 00:11:47,110 --> 00:11:43,970 the denser the medium the better the 253 00:11:50,139 --> 00:11:47,120 transmission so it'll be louder better 254 00:11:52,809 --> 00:11:50,149 attenuation you know you'll pick up more 255 00:11:55,689 --> 00:11:52,819 and you hear that with whale songs 256 00:11:57,910 --> 00:11:55,699 versus bird songs if you walk away from 257 00:11:59,889 --> 00:11:57,920 a bird singing it'll drop off pretty 258 00:12:02,499 --> 00:11:59,899 quickly if you're underwater it's much 259 00:12:05,379 --> 00:12:02,509 denser and the whales song will carry 260 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:05,389 for miles but when they were looking at 261 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:07,730 light when they're first looking at the 262 00:12:14,049 --> 00:12:10,970 properties of light they basically 263 00:12:16,949 --> 00:12:14,059 realized okay this is traveling so fast 264 00:12:19,179 --> 00:12:16,959 it must be an incredibly dense media and 265 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:19,189 it's kind of a little bit elastic 266 00:12:22,989 --> 00:12:20,930 soaking allow these waves to pass 267 00:12:24,670 --> 00:12:22,999 through they understood the interference 268 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:24,680 of the waves and things like that so 269 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:26,930 they understood that they were working 270 00:12:32,530 --> 00:12:30,110 with wave action and so that's basically 271 00:12:36,939 --> 00:12:32,540 where the model of the luminiferous 272 00:12:41,199 --> 00:12:36,949 ether comes from now Michelson Morley 273 00:12:42,309 --> 00:12:41,209 experiment was set up to test the 274 00:12:45,730 --> 00:12:42,319 Illumina furs 275 00:12:47,769 --> 00:12:45,740 if ether model so basically what they 276 00:12:49,509 --> 00:12:47,779 did was they made a large granite 277 00:12:52,090 --> 00:12:49,519 platform I believe or maybe the 278 00:12:56,230 --> 00:12:52,100 sandstone it was heavy and it was very 279 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:56,240 stable and then they built a cross array 280 00:13:00,579 --> 00:12:58,850 on it that had mirrors and lights and 281 00:13:02,829 --> 00:13:00,589 they would look and they would see if 282 00:13:04,929 --> 00:13:02,839 there was a drift in this little fringe 283 00:13:07,179 --> 00:13:04,939 pattern that would be set up where they 284 00:13:09,790 --> 00:13:07,189 were supposed to look and by observing 285 00:13:12,549 --> 00:13:09,800 that drift and the fringes they could 286 00:13:15,340 --> 00:13:12,559 tell if there was an etheric motion 287 00:13:18,809 --> 00:13:15,350 being entrained by the earth as it moved 288 00:13:21,369 --> 00:13:18,819 through space so if you think about just 289 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:21,379 clumping a ball through water or 290 00:13:25,989 --> 00:13:23,470 something like that you're going to have 291 00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:25,999 this boundary layer that gets built up 292 00:13:31,449 --> 00:13:28,399 around it where there's less drift 293 00:13:34,829 --> 00:13:31,459 towards the surface but if you're able 294 00:13:38,019 --> 00:13:34,839 to to measure it can get a a good idea 295 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:38,029 kind of the properties but the thing was 296 00:13:42,309 --> 00:13:40,370 that the Michelson Morley experiment was 297 00:13:44,470 --> 00:13:42,319 an extremely deficient experiment 298 00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:44,480 it only had 36 data points which is 299 00:13:49,780 --> 00:13:47,870 fairly statistically significant so when 300 00:13:52,179 --> 00:13:49,790 you're doing statistical analysis you 301 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:52,189 want at least 30 data points to have any 302 00:13:57,999 --> 00:13:55,490 real statistical significance and if 303 00:14:01,059 --> 00:13:58,009 you're making a fundamental observation 304 00:14:03,780 --> 00:14:01,069 of reality I mean how many decimal 305 00:14:05,970 --> 00:14:03,790 places they take out gravity 306 00:14:08,670 --> 00:14:05,980 you know some of these other constants 307 00:14:12,050 --> 00:14:08,680 too in these guys bro using thirty six 308 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:12,060 data points you can't really make big 309 00:14:17,730 --> 00:14:16,330 determinations from that so today if you 310 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:17,740 go to Wikipedia you look up the 311 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:19,270 michelson-morley experiment they'll say 312 00:14:25,650 --> 00:14:22,480 it was a null results right but if you 313 00:14:29,340 --> 00:14:25,660 actually go and look at the paper which 314 00:14:31,650 --> 00:14:29,350 I sent you mm-hmm then there's more to 315 00:14:34,950 --> 00:14:31,660 it than that that you actually see this 316 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:34,960 small little sinusoidal wave in the raw 317 00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:37,930 data they show it there and in their 318 00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:41,230 supplement to the experiment they 319 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:43,990 actually say it is obvious from what has 320 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:46,690 gone before referencing the main body of 321 00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:48,730 the paper that it would be hopeless to 322 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:50,500 attempt to solve the question of the 323 00:14:54,150 --> 00:14:51,790 motion of the solar system by 324 00:14:56,130 --> 00:14:54,160 observations of optical phenomena at the 325 00:14:57,270 --> 00:14:56,140 surface of the earth now you got to 326 00:15:00,180 --> 00:14:57,280 realize there experiment was conducted 327 00:15:02,580 --> 00:15:00,190 in a basement at sea level so they were 328 00:15:04,590 --> 00:15:02,590 right at the surface there which is be 329 00:15:07,230 --> 00:15:04,600 the worst place to measure it actually 330 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:07,240 but it is not impossible that it even 331 00:15:10,980 --> 00:15:09,310 moderate distances about the level of 332 00:15:13,020 --> 00:15:10,990 the sea at the top of an isolated 333 00:15:14,970 --> 00:15:13,030 mountain peak for instance the relative 334 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:14,980 motion might be perceptible and an 335 00:15:19,530 --> 00:15:16,930 apparatus like that used in these 336 00:15:20,610 --> 00:15:19,540 experiments perhaps if the experiment 337 00:15:22,770 --> 00:15:20,620 should ever be tried in these 338 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:22,780 circumstances the cover should be glass 339 00:15:26,190 --> 00:15:24,910 or should be removed so they're 340 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:26,200 recognizing that there could be 341 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:29,770 interference from large masses one more 342 00:15:33,630 --> 00:15:31,240 thing before I give up on 343 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:33,640 michelson-morley we should note that 344 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:35,710 Michelson of the Michelson Morley 345 00:15:40,290 --> 00:15:38,170 experiment believed in either based 346 00:15:43,260 --> 00:15:40,300 physics until the day he died to 347 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:43,270 understand the basic differences in the 348 00:15:48,150 --> 00:15:45,130 different types of beeper now I'm going 349 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:48,160 to start to go into that so there's a 350 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:50,950 luminiferous ether and that's the one 351 00:15:55,410 --> 00:15:52,690 that we started to get into a little bit 352 00:15:57,950 --> 00:15:55,420 and the way I really conceived of it is 353 00:16:00,930 --> 00:15:57,960 kind of like a cosmic block of granite 354 00:16:03,570 --> 00:16:00,940 that's kind of rubbery I mean it's very 355 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:03,580 dense but it's kind of rubbery hmm 356 00:16:08,670 --> 00:16:05,350 because it's able to transmit these 357 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:08,680 waves I'm just giving you the context 358 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:11,920 for that experiment gotcha okay so that 359 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:14,530 you can understand what they actually 360 00:16:19,079 --> 00:16:17,290 proved in the experiment right 361 00:16:20,579 --> 00:16:19,089 I talked about what they actually said 362 00:16:23,610 --> 00:16:20,589 about it they said that they couldn't 363 00:16:26,579 --> 00:16:23,620 really make a determination now I'm 364 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:26,589 going to go into what is implied by 365 00:16:31,829 --> 00:16:29,170 their experiment and then get into the 366 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:31,839 further experiments of Dayton Miller 367 00:16:35,610 --> 00:16:34,000 where he actually did follow their 368 00:16:38,340 --> 00:16:35,620 recommendations and go up to the top of 369 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:38,350 the mountain and take off the covers of 370 00:16:44,629 --> 00:16:41,769 the apparatus mm-hmm so what they were 371 00:16:48,269 --> 00:16:44,639 looking for was the luminiferous ether 372 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:48,279 their experimental rig was set up for 373 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:51,370 that and it would have shown something 374 00:16:56,129 --> 00:16:53,920 if it was there the way I would explain 375 00:16:59,759 --> 00:16:56,139 it is it's kind of like you're looking 376 00:17:02,519 --> 00:16:59,769 for hail and you put out a bucket it's 377 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:02,529 just funny and you're like there's no 378 00:17:10,590 --> 00:17:08,079 moisture here it wasn't set up properly 379 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:10,600 to detect what's actually there in my 380 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:16,329 okay so the luminiferous ether think of 381 00:17:20,579 --> 00:17:18,130 a cosmic block of granite representing 382 00:17:23,159 --> 00:17:20,589 space it was a rigid transducer of 383 00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:23,169 electromagnetic waves while the motion 384 00:17:28,289 --> 00:17:25,150 of a rigid ether was disproved by 385 00:17:31,380 --> 00:17:28,299 Michelson Morley it did not disprove the 386 00:17:34,370 --> 00:17:31,390 motion of a dynamic either a dynamic 387 00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:34,380 ether is an ether that's capable of 388 00:17:42,690 --> 00:17:38,880 transitioning into other states of 389 00:17:47,010 --> 00:17:42,700 arrangement so it would have differing 390 00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:47,020 properties depending on the excitations 391 00:17:51,530 --> 00:17:50,080 that it was experiencing if that makes 392 00:17:54,149 --> 00:17:51,540 sense 393 00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:54,159 now I'm going to explain the difference 394 00:17:58,500 --> 00:17:55,840 between the luminiferous ether and the 395 00:18:01,470 --> 00:17:58,510 relativistic ether so the relativistic 396 00:18:02,970 --> 00:18:01,480 ether is the ether that Albert Einstein 397 00:18:05,700 --> 00:18:02,980 was talking about he was talking about 398 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:05,710 either in his book now the fabric of 399 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:08,290 space-time that current scientific 400 00:18:13,530 --> 00:18:11,440 thinking espouses and its really rather 401 00:18:16,370 --> 00:18:13,540 than a fabric it's more of a gelatin 402 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:16,380 because it fills three dimensional space 403 00:18:22,649 --> 00:18:20,290 it can curve and it can dig you know 404 00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:22,659 twists and things like that but it 405 00:18:27,530 --> 00:18:25,480 doesn't have real motion to it mm-hmm 406 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:27,540 does that make sense yeah 407 00:18:32,540 --> 00:18:30,330 now like I said before that's where the 408 00:18:36,890 --> 00:18:32,550 concept gravitational lensing comes from 409 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:36,900 this curvature so now the dynamic ether 410 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:41,490 is where space can flow and it's the 411 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:43,050 medium of electromagnetic and 412 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:45,840 gravitational transmission it's based on 413 00:18:50,690 --> 00:18:48,450 the range of frequency of conduction for 414 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:50,700 electrical signals and the ether is a 415 00:18:56,290 --> 00:18:53,910 compressible fluid like a gas but it can 416 00:19:00,020 --> 00:18:56,300 act like a liquid or a solid and 417 00:19:04,670 --> 00:19:00,030 possibly even a plasma I'm not sure but 418 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:04,680 this is kind of the range of states that 419 00:19:10,340 --> 00:19:07,770 we kind of see in our material world 420 00:19:13,450 --> 00:19:10,350 seem to be the sort of states that can 421 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:13,460 appear in this a theory world and 422 00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:16,050 there's also also the possibility that 423 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:19,200 when the ancients were talking about the 424 00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:21,210 elements they weren't really talking 425 00:19:27,650 --> 00:19:24,000 about the actual elements that they 426 00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:27,660 thought comprised an atom of any given 427 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:31,070 material it may have been the states 428 00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:36,530 that were involved in the etheric a 429 00:19:41,420 --> 00:19:38,430 configuration of that material or 430 00:19:43,820 --> 00:19:41,430 something those lines because I think 431 00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:43,830 that a lot of ancient people were 432 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:45,600 dealing with this stuff on a more 433 00:19:50,450 --> 00:19:47,970 intuitive level because that's how it 434 00:19:55,010 --> 00:19:50,460 expresses itself when it is expressed 435 00:19:58,460 --> 00:19:55,020 mm-hmm in people's minds so I think that 436 00:20:01,120 --> 00:19:58,470 there is some truth to those conceptions 437 00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:01,130 but they aren't in the material realm 438 00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:04,440 specifically they're kind of domains of 439 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:07,140 the etheric if you think about it that 440 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:09,930 way for different ways for the spirit 441 00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:12,810 energy to behave depending on the 442 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:16,080 conditions yeah that makes sense so I'm 443 00:20:19,220 --> 00:20:17,970 going to talk about Dayton Miller now he 444 00:20:23,090 --> 00:20:19,230 followed up on the Michelson Morley 445 00:20:25,550 --> 00:20:23,100 experiments and he basically built a 446 00:20:28,190 --> 00:20:25,560 house a wooden house at the top of Mount 447 00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:28,200 Wilson to house the experimental 448 00:20:32,030 --> 00:20:28,860 apparatus 449 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:32,040 it was own large block of stone hit a 450 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:33,720 few different configurations I think 451 00:20:38,780 --> 00:20:35,490 there was a brass one there was a steel 452 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:38,790 one there was another one that it had 453 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:41,010 different panels there was like panels 454 00:20:47,810 --> 00:20:44,670 korkin panels of glass and he kind of 455 00:20:49,550 --> 00:20:47,820 saw how different effects would work on 456 00:20:51,710 --> 00:20:49,560 the apparatus if it was heated yet 457 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:51,720 parabolic heaters he set up all around 458 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:54,030 it to see if heating effects would 459 00:20:59,150 --> 00:20:57,210 affect it and basically what he did was 460 00:21:00,970 --> 00:20:59,160 he repeated the experiments Michelson 461 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:00,980 Morley seeing if there's this 462 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:03,930 entrainment of the ether around the 463 00:21:09,950 --> 00:21:07,170 Earth and he was able to detect it and 464 00:21:13,130 --> 00:21:09,960 he was able to detect its direction he 465 00:21:15,380 --> 00:21:13,140 was able to detect its speed and at the 466 00:21:19,220 --> 00:21:15,390 time Albert Einstein he actually 467 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:19,230 recognized that if Miller's experiments 468 00:21:24,380 --> 00:21:22,410 held up it would invalidate his theory 469 00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:24,390 of relativity and this is his photo 470 00:21:28,550 --> 00:21:26,790 subject he said my opinion about 471 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:28,560 Miller's experiments is the following 472 00:21:33,950 --> 00:21:31,410 should the positive result be confirmed 473 00:21:35,660 --> 00:21:33,960 in a special theory of relativity and 474 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:35,670 with it the general theory of relativity 475 00:21:41,660 --> 00:21:38,570 in its current form would be invalid 476 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:41,670 experimental some us judex only the 477 00:21:45,380 --> 00:21:43,710 equivalence of inertia and gravitation 478 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:45,390 would remain hell over they would lead 479 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:47,690 to a significantly different theory and 480 00:21:55,130 --> 00:21:50,610 as Albert Einstein in a letter to Edwin 481 00:21:59,530 --> 00:21:55,140 he Slauson on 8th of July 1925 as from 482 00:22:04,150 --> 00:21:59,540 Hebrew University archive interest so I 483 00:22:07,220 --> 00:22:04,160 like that now at the time and even today 484 00:22:10,370 --> 00:22:07,230 those results of Dayton Miller's are 485 00:22:12,350 --> 00:22:10,380 dismissed and I'll tell you why at the 486 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:12,360 time they said well it's heating effects 487 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:14,970 from the Sun now never mind that this 488 00:22:19,010 --> 00:22:16,890 wooden house that he added in he 489 00:22:19,850 --> 00:22:19,020 basically had it set up like a tent over 490 00:22:23,090 --> 00:22:19,860 the house 491 00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:23,100 they're always streaming like linen 492 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:25,260 cloths that he hang from the house to 493 00:22:31,070 --> 00:22:27,990 help block the Sun and distribute the 494 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:31,080 heat away from the house and he ought 495 00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:32,730 like I said he corrected for heating 496 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:37,710 with parabolic heaters and also the 497 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:41,490 fluctuations did not correlate with the 498 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:44,970 heating cycles of the Sun so the I mean 499 00:22:49,340 --> 00:22:46,530 the argument falls apart right there 500 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:49,350 today there's currently a paper that's 501 00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:51,090 floating out there on the internet that 502 00:22:54,190 --> 00:22:52,980 I saw where they're basically claiming 503 00:22:55,930 --> 00:22:54,200 well 504 00:22:58,030 --> 00:22:55,940 the heating effects weren't really that 505 00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:58,040 you know something that was really that 506 00:23:02,320 --> 00:22:59,210 effect but we're going to just look at 507 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:02,330 it from the statistical standpoint and 508 00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:04,490 they go down that road and I didn't see 509 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:07,310 anything really conclusive from them in 510 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:09,650 terms of why it was being rejected there 511 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:11,330 at their basic argument boiled down to 512 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:13,850 well we've got computers nowadays so 513 00:23:18,790 --> 00:23:16,190 that's why their statistical analysis 514 00:23:20,350 --> 00:23:18,800 wasn't correct and it's like wait that 515 00:23:21,970 --> 00:23:20,360 has nothing to do with statistical 516 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:21,980 analysis just because it was done by 517 00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:23,090 hand doesn't mean it was done 518 00:23:27,220 --> 00:23:24,500 incorrectly they had an independent 519 00:23:28,810 --> 00:23:27,230 analysis done the mathematics of since 520 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:28,820 districts have not changed in that 521 00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:31,730 period of time since the 1920s to where 522 00:23:36,370 --> 00:23:34,640 it would fall apart I mean there would 523 00:23:39,660 --> 00:23:36,380 be dozens of other things from before 524 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:39,670 mm-hmm what so we developed Maxwell's 525 00:23:45,070 --> 00:23:42,650 equations with no statistical analysis 526 00:23:46,570 --> 00:23:45,080 that was valid I mean come on right well 527 00:23:47,860 --> 00:23:46,580 they always got to have an official 528 00:23:49,450 --> 00:23:47,870 answer you know weather balloons and 529 00:23:51,850 --> 00:23:49,460 swamp gas they gotta come up with some 530 00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:51,860 way to dismiss stuff yeah it's small 531 00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:53,150 communities from what I can tell that 532 00:23:59,620 --> 00:23:56,000 paper so interesting man I mean that's a 533 00:24:02,200 --> 00:23:59,630 pretty good background in context for 534 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:02,210 you know the validity of this ether 535 00:24:06,490 --> 00:24:04,910 theory obviously a big part of what we 536 00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:06,500 talk about on the show is that our 537 00:24:11,290 --> 00:24:08,750 traditional paradigm has problems and 538 00:24:13,810 --> 00:24:11,300 leaves a lot of questions unanswered how 539 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:13,820 does this model affect the way we should 540 00:24:20,350 --> 00:24:16,610 think about space in our environment in 541 00:24:23,260 --> 00:24:20,360 a practical way well you asked me before 542 00:24:26,290 --> 00:24:23,270 about how this relates to the electric 543 00:24:28,660 --> 00:24:26,300 universe and stuff like that and all the 544 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:28,670 things that you know well Thornhill and 545 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:32,510 I think it's Donald you stud basically 546 00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:35,510 what they're looking at as inspiration 547 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:37,760 is plasma physics and plasma physics 548 00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:40,010 fits perfectly with the ether model 549 00:24:45,070 --> 00:24:42,800 Tesla was working with plasmas all day 550 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:45,080 long beauty first came up with the use 551 00:24:53,050 --> 00:24:48,490 of plasma for medical sterilization 552 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:53,060 plasma is is right up right up ether 553 00:24:58,180 --> 00:24:55,370 physics Alan so whatever whatever 554 00:25:00,760 --> 00:24:58,190 backstory they put on it if they have 555 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:00,770 their own theories based on materialist 556 00:25:04,990 --> 00:25:02,570 science then that's what they're putting 557 00:25:07,570 --> 00:25:05,000 forward but I would contend that the 558 00:25:08,350 --> 00:25:07,580 ether model can explain it better mm-hmm 559 00:25:10,539 --> 00:25:08,360 well 560 00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:10,549 Thornhill talks about the pinch of X the 561 00:25:15,580 --> 00:25:12,230 pinch effect is essentially where 562 00:25:17,230 --> 00:25:15,590 there's counter rotational plasma 563 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:17,240 vortices that are coming together and 564 00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:19,970 they're creating gravitation for 565 00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:22,880 gravitational waves and that's precisely 566 00:25:28,510 --> 00:25:26,030 what I've talked about in my discussion 567 00:25:31,090 --> 00:25:28,520 with you about the ether model on the 568 00:25:33,549 --> 00:25:31,100 interior of the Sun there is a pinch 569 00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:33,559 effect in the center and that's what he 570 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:35,929 was describing but that's exactly what 571 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:38,630 is modeled from the ether mom and it 572 00:25:44,260 --> 00:25:41,570 also models there being an internal Sun 573 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:44,270 in the center of the earth right so I'm 574 00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:45,890 going to start to get into that now 575 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:49,520 basically the Sun is a receiver and a 576 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:52,850 transmitter of longitudinal energy so 577 00:25:57,580 --> 00:25:55,520 longitudinal or scalar energy basically 578 00:26:00,990 --> 00:25:57,590 the best way to think about it is like a 579 00:26:04,990 --> 00:26:01,000 twizzler in the air it's this long 580 00:26:08,409 --> 00:26:05,000 twisted thread okay actually that's what 581 00:26:10,780 --> 00:26:08,419 the Kobe Indian scholar is a thread hmm 582 00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:10,790 they live in the Sierra Nevada de Santa 583 00:26:16,930 --> 00:26:14,390 Marta and Columbia and there's actually 584 00:26:19,090 --> 00:26:16,940 a documentary called the Luna where they 585 00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:19,100 follow these guys around they they 586 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:22,150 actually have a golden thread made and 587 00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:26,330 they walk it along the beach in Colombia 588 00:26:32,350 --> 00:26:30,169 as a symbolic act and they go for like 589 00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:32,360 hundreds of miles just walking carrying 590 00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:33,950 this thread dragging it behind them 591 00:26:39,340 --> 00:26:36,080 because what they wanted to do was raise 592 00:26:41,890 --> 00:26:39,350 awareness of the effect that people's 593 00:26:44,650 --> 00:26:41,900 actions have through longitudinal fields 594 00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:44,660 to lirik currents the world energy grid 595 00:26:50,530 --> 00:26:48,169 and demonstrate to them that what they 596 00:26:52,419 --> 00:26:50,540 do down in the valley affects how the 597 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:52,429 animals live up in the mountains were 598 00:26:57,610 --> 00:26:54,770 there and they're tired of everybody 599 00:26:59,680 --> 00:26:57,620 crapping down they're you know they're 600 00:27:02,080 --> 00:26:59,690 over building there they're sealing off 601 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:02,090 the surfaces you know all the water just 602 00:27:06,730 --> 00:27:04,970 gets drained off into the ocean and so 603 00:27:08,980 --> 00:27:06,740 they're saying you know you're hurting 604 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:08,990 our main foam and they're also digging 605 00:27:13,390 --> 00:27:11,510 up golden idols that they've buried that 606 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:13,400 are meant to be there for ceremonial 607 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:15,770 purposes but they also tie into the 608 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:18,890 telluric energy it's affecting the the 609 00:27:22,150 --> 00:27:20,510 way the plants are growing because the 610 00:27:23,710 --> 00:27:22,160 telluric energy is being destroyed 611 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:23,720 because people are digging up those 612 00:27:27,580 --> 00:27:26,450 idols to sell them for gold these are 613 00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:27,590 all things that come from this 614 00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:30,920 documentary basically these currents in 615 00:27:37,390 --> 00:27:34,760 the electric universe model these give 616 00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,400 rise to berkland currents which are 617 00:27:41,410 --> 00:27:39,200 something that's described heavily in 618 00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:41,420 that model they they talk about it how 619 00:27:47,650 --> 00:27:44,480 it distributes hundreds and thousands of 620 00:27:49,930 --> 00:27:47,660 amps you know millions of volts going 621 00:27:52,450 --> 00:27:49,940 going through the universe just 622 00:27:54,580 --> 00:27:52,460 everywhere there's a streaming all over 623 00:27:56,170 --> 00:27:54,590 the place there we go yeah you're the 624 00:27:57,550 --> 00:27:56,180 arbiter they're all over the place 625 00:28:00,100 --> 00:27:57,560 they're at they're distributing energy 626 00:28:02,620 --> 00:28:00,110 throughout the universe you know that's 627 00:28:05,770 --> 00:28:02,630 exactly what's predicted by an ether 628 00:28:08,380 --> 00:28:05,780 physics model hmm okay so let's get a 629 00:28:10,420 --> 00:28:08,390 little bit into Maxwell's equations sure 630 00:28:12,730 --> 00:28:10,430 so Maxwell's equations when they were 631 00:28:15,730 --> 00:28:12,740 originally written they were written in 632 00:28:19,690 --> 00:28:15,740 a type of algebra that specifically had 633 00:28:22,030 --> 00:28:19,700 a it had a tensor component or a vector 634 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:22,040 it's basically it's a direction with a 635 00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:24,170 magnitude and then it had a scalar 636 00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:28,310 component which was a magnitude but what 637 00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:29,120 it really is 638 00:28:35,890 --> 00:28:32,480 space is a vortex okay because the 639 00:28:38,740 --> 00:28:35,900 scalar is a vortex it's where all of the 640 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:38,750 arrows once it comes back the other side 641 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:40,610 around of the vortex it's pointing in 642 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:42,050 the opposite direction with the same 643 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:44,330 magnitude so they all cancel out 644 00:28:49,630 --> 00:28:46,250 mathematically but they're still a 645 00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:49,640 vortex there this was accounted for in 646 00:28:55,270 --> 00:28:52,880 Maxwell's original equations but by the 647 00:28:58,090 --> 00:28:55,280 time it got to you know I think it was 648 00:29:00,700 --> 00:28:58,100 Heaviside went through it and and he 649 00:29:03,610 --> 00:29:00,710 modified it and Hertz 650 00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:03,620 came in and he modified it a bit and so 651 00:29:09,370 --> 00:29:05,510 by the time it gets the point where it's 652 00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:09,380 quote-unquote usable then that's been 653 00:29:15,330 --> 00:29:12,320 taken out mm-hmm and so there are very 654 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:15,340 few people Tesla being one of them who 655 00:29:21,850 --> 00:29:19,310 understood that that still had a major 656 00:29:22,420 --> 00:29:21,860 effect and that that was something to 657 00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:22,430 look into 658 00:29:27,670 --> 00:29:25,400 mmm-hmm interesting and so how does this 659 00:29:30,490 --> 00:29:27,680 relate to the the idea of the inner Sun 660 00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:30,500 or the Hollow Earth itself I'll start 661 00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:33,710 just kind of with formation of Suns and 662 00:29:37,790 --> 00:29:35,160 planets 663 00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:37,800 things like that need so so basically 664 00:29:44,570 --> 00:29:41,640 what we call black holes aren't really 665 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:44,580 black holes they don't have a boundary 666 00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:46,650 layer that they're basically a 667 00:30:06,470 --> 00:29:49,200 mathematical artifact of dividing by 668 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:06,480 zero really it's an implosive structure 669 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:10,050 the math doesn't work out - to have it 670 00:30:14,450 --> 00:30:11,820 describe the way that they we want it to 671 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:14,460 be described but basically whenever you 672 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:16,290 have these implosive structures and 673 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:18,210 there's an implosive structure at the 674 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:19,710 center the Sun there's the poster 675 00:30:22,790 --> 00:30:21,450 structure at the center there's a 676 00:30:27,170 --> 00:30:22,800 glossary structure at the center of the 677 00:30:30,050 --> 00:30:27,180 earth it's all depending on these flows 678 00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:30,060 of plasma and how they twist against 679 00:30:34,130 --> 00:30:32,340 each other it kind of like the Nazi Bell 680 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:34,140 where there are these twisting 681 00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:37,050 counter-rotating mercury plasmas that 682 00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:39,110 are being pulsed with electricity it's 683 00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:41,430 similar in concept to that and that's 684 00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:43,470 why all hell breaks loose around that 685 00:30:48,530 --> 00:30:45,750 damn thing you know people melting into 686 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:48,540 great gobs of goo and it lifting off and 687 00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:50,490 you know breaking from it s'mores and 688 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:53,460 all sorts of stuff like that so 689 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:56,010 basically the way that this stuff forms 690 00:31:03,020 --> 00:30:59,250 is that there are these implosive these 691 00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:03,030 majorly implosive structures that we 692 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:04,980 call black holes but they're really I 693 00:31:09,460 --> 00:31:06,510 don't know what to call them in closer 694 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:09,470 structures they're basically these big 695 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:12,570 vortices that come together and then 696 00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:16,530 they they spray out these particles but 697 00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:19,520 in there are also these longitudinal 698 00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:23,580 fields and they start to carry energy 699 00:31:28,340 --> 00:31:26,280 with them and they start to spin 700 00:31:32,050 --> 00:31:28,350 depending on the motion of the 701 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:32,060 surrounding universe they start to form 702 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:35,970 these conglomerations of matter and 703 00:31:42,050 --> 00:31:38,730 these met these convulsions of matter 704 00:31:44,290 --> 00:31:42,060 are spinning and if you have a 705 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:44,300 conglomeration of matter that's spinning 706 00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:48,150 then it won't be a ball if it's big 707 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:48,600 enough 708 00:31:54,649 --> 00:31:53,610 to be Hollow because it's going to all 709 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:54,659 come to the outside 710 00:31:59,149 --> 00:31:56,850 hmm think about a centrifuge what 711 00:32:01,580 --> 00:31:59,159 happens Oh everything gets forced to the 712 00:32:03,649 --> 00:32:01,590 outside right I thought about that ride 713 00:32:05,659 --> 00:32:03,659 that is at a lot of amusement parks 714 00:32:07,999 --> 00:32:05,669 where you line up along the outside wall 715 00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:08,009 and then as it spins you can lift your 716 00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:10,049 legs up and feet up and the whole game 717 00:32:14,810 --> 00:32:11,519 is like trying to pull your hand off the 718 00:32:18,409 --> 00:32:14,820 wall and it sticks back to it exactly so 719 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:18,419 if you have a large enough energy of 720 00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:20,610 rotation basically then you're going to 721 00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:23,460 have a cavity structure form in there 722 00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:26,129 and if a cavity structure forms and 723 00:32:29,899 --> 00:32:28,710 everything starts to get stabilized I 724 00:32:32,090 --> 00:32:29,909 mean the first there'd be the formation 725 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:32,100 of the Sun the Sun would find its place 726 00:32:38,539 --> 00:32:35,730 and then it'd start to form these belts 727 00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:38,549 of planetary you know a debris that 728 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:41,580 would rotate into masses and things like 729 00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:44,570 that and it all conforms to a harmonic 730 00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:46,409 relationship it's actually called the 731 00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:49,919 bode points because there was this guy 732 00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:52,399 named bode who calculated that these are 733 00:32:58,869 --> 00:32:55,289 these planets aren't just spaced out 734 00:33:03,289 --> 00:32:58,879 randomly they're according to like 735 00:33:05,389 --> 00:33:03,299 resonant relationships between the size 736 00:33:08,049 --> 00:33:05,399 and the planets now far away they are 737 00:33:10,610 --> 00:33:08,059 sighs the Sun and all this stuff 738 00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:10,620 basically at these points is where these 739 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:13,919 things start to form and they develop 740 00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:15,809 this cavity but they're also being fed 741 00:33:21,220 --> 00:33:18,240 this energy from the Sun which is being 742 00:33:24,919 --> 00:33:21,230 fed this energy from nearby black holes 743 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:24,929 so to speak and the reason is because 744 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:28,320 once you get into this this pinch as 745 00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:30,450 well Thornhill calls it or this counter 746 00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:35,039 rotational plasma arrangement then you 747 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:37,769 have the perfect condition for there to 748 00:33:43,639 --> 00:33:41,610 be a vacuum of immense immense 749 00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:43,649 proportions created inside of there and 750 00:33:49,009 --> 00:33:45,809 that is what actually is powering 751 00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:49,019 everything it's this vacuum energy the 752 00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:52,080 zero-point that's actually coming out in 753 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:55,230 that arranged and so that that is 754 00:33:59,899 --> 00:33:57,090 primarily coming out of these large 755 00:34:02,390 --> 00:33:59,909 these large black hole structures and 756 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:02,400 then that feeds into the Sun 757 00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:04,650 which developed their own little 758 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:07,860 implosive center inside of them and that 759 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:11,490 in turn feeds the planets and so it's 760 00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:14,850 all kind of a distribution network if 761 00:34:18,110 --> 00:34:15,990 you will okay 762 00:34:19,610 --> 00:34:18,120 that's what wal thornhill was describing 763 00:34:22,580 --> 00:34:19,620 when he was describing these berkland 764 00:34:27,010 --> 00:34:22,590 currents you know these plasmas these 765 00:34:29,950 --> 00:34:27,020 plasmas are essentially an indicator of 766 00:34:32,450 --> 00:34:29,960 these longitudinal fields I think 767 00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:32,460 because if once you get the longitudinal 768 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:33,750 field there then yeah all this other 769 00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:35,010 stuff is going to carry one I'll carry 770 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:37,260 it along with it video without that it 771 00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:41,850 would do informed right on then I mean 772 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:43,740 it's a lot it definitely is some 773 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:45,570 high-level stuff I didn't learn this in 774 00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:47,730 school but you also talked about the 775 00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:50,270 possibility that the earth is expanding 776 00:34:56,659 --> 00:34:54,030 yes yes well that's what all this 777 00:34:58,220 --> 00:34:56,669 Energy's going to yeah you know I mean 778 00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:58,230 you're getting this feed from the the 779 00:35:01,910 --> 00:35:00,000 emissions of the black holes it going 780 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:01,920 into the Sun the sun's remitting it 781 00:35:07,970 --> 00:35:04,170 giving a little bit boost of its own 782 00:35:09,830 --> 00:35:07,980 comes into the earth and that goes into 783 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:09,840 its own little Sun in the center there 784 00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,210 that is feeding the growth of the earth 785 00:35:16,610 --> 00:35:14,640 so there's this constant expansion and 786 00:35:19,580 --> 00:35:16,620 and if you look at the you look at the 787 00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:19,590 ocean floor maps from NOAA NOAA the 788 00:35:26,330 --> 00:35:22,910 National Oceanic and what is it 789 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:26,340 atmospheric Association or something 790 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:28,410 yeah something like that they actually 791 00:35:32,090 --> 00:35:30,690 have a map of the ocean floor and you'll 792 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:32,100 see that they're the counties little 793 00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:36,090 bursts of growth and basically the all 794 00:35:39,590 --> 00:35:38,760 the continents serve bout two billion 795 00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:39,600 years old 796 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:41,910 you know everybody everybody looked at 797 00:35:46,430 --> 00:35:44,370 the you know at the globe when they were 798 00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:46,440 a kid and they're like well how it looks 799 00:35:51,340 --> 00:35:48,540 like it fits together mm-hmm 800 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:51,350 you know yeah well you're right it does 801 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:54,090 everybody knows it intuitively yeah it 802 00:35:59,600 --> 00:35:57,210 fits together so basically as the earth 803 00:36:04,490 --> 00:35:59,610 was forming it had this cavity inside 804 00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:04,500 and it didn't initially have a Sun it 805 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:08,280 was kind of this small little rock kind 806 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:12,090 of floating around following the Sun 807 00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:15,090 but at some point you know because it 808 00:36:19,940 --> 00:36:17,640 kept accumulating and accumulating more 809 00:36:21,740 --> 00:36:19,950 matter and there was still energy 810 00:36:23,170 --> 00:36:21,750 streaming into it from the Sun it's kind 811 00:36:27,290 --> 00:36:23,180 of like when you have a nuclear reactor 812 00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:27,300 you know if you get enough energy flown 813 00:36:32,450 --> 00:36:29,040 into it it's all getting concentrated 814 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:32,460 clean it's kind of kicks off yeah so 815 00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:34,890 that's that's what happened there around 816 00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:37,200 65 million years ago is when it kind of 817 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:39,270 kicked off but there are little little 818 00:36:43,820 --> 00:36:41,310 blips before that you see on the map but 819 00:36:46,610 --> 00:36:43,830 at that point it just starts going 820 00:36:48,350 --> 00:36:46,620 bonkers like you'll see huge expansions 821 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:48,360 that'll kind of chill out for a bit and 822 00:36:53,630 --> 00:36:50,850 then you'll see huge expansions and then 823 00:36:55,870 --> 00:36:53,640 it'll stop and you see these different 824 00:36:58,670 --> 00:36:55,880 areas where on the sea floor like it's 825 00:37:00,440 --> 00:36:58,680 65 million years old it's like 25 826 00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:00,450 million years old and then it's getting 827 00:37:06,380 --> 00:37:03,780 closer to to our age and and the closer 828 00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:06,390 it gets the bigger it gets so it looks 829 00:37:11,350 --> 00:37:09,150 like you know these expansive spurts of 830 00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:11,360 the earth from this this longitudinal 831 00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:16,710 and plasmic and electric and all this 832 00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:19,710 energy coming in streaming out of it out 833 00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:21,300 of the Sun and out of the out of these 834 00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:25,110 black holes is causing the earth to in 835 00:37:31,550 --> 00:37:28,590 periodic times to grow and grow 836 00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:31,560 dramatically that kind of aligns with a 837 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,720 lot of ancient thoughts and it looks 838 00:37:37,220 --> 00:37:35,520 like it's been about four times so kind 839 00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:37,230 of like a well we're in the fourth world 840 00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:40,710 or something like that you know there 841 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:42,420 there might be some tie in there who 842 00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:44,490 knows but I'm not really saying that 843 00:37:48,530 --> 00:37:46,110 there were people around 65 million 844 00:37:52,190 --> 00:37:48,540 years ago but who knows who might have 845 00:37:54,770 --> 00:37:52,200 told them that that happened yeah I love 846 00:37:57,290 --> 00:37:54,780 it man but this distribution network is 847 00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:57,300 a little odd that so much of it meaning 848 00:38:01,160 --> 00:37:58,530 the other planets 849 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:01,170 we're told appear to be largely useless 850 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:04,110 just big dead rocks or balls of gas it's 851 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:05,760 weird to think the distribution network 852 00:38:10,670 --> 00:38:08,250 would churn out all this extra stuff and 853 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:10,680 then this one small planet that all the 854 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:12,210 life is on somewhere in the middle 855 00:38:18,890 --> 00:38:15,090 doesn't seem that efficient really well 856 00:38:24,190 --> 00:38:18,900 I can talk about Wilhelm Reich oh sure 857 00:38:30,490 --> 00:38:26,650 Wilhelm Reich he was a student of 858 00:38:34,420 --> 00:38:30,500 Sigmund Freud and he went into studying 859 00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,430 sprites libido and he wanted to see if 860 00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:37,280 there was a way to you know measure 861 00:38:42,849 --> 00:38:41,510 sexual energy scientifically and so what 862 00:38:44,980 --> 00:38:42,859 he did was he hooked up a galvanometer 863 00:38:46,930 --> 00:38:44,990 to people and he started to do some 864 00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:46,940 experiments and he basically realized 865 00:38:51,970 --> 00:38:49,520 there's a real energy here there's 866 00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:51,980 something here and it's showing up in 867 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:55,910 these Alva meter experiments and he was 868 00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:57,170 just measuring people's surface 869 00:39:02,890 --> 00:39:00,079 conductivity of their skin and he 870 00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:02,900 realized it was a pulsating energy 871 00:39:10,359 --> 00:39:05,510 and what we're talking about is a kind 872 00:39:13,449 --> 00:39:10,369 of pulsating energy mm-hmm and so 873 00:39:14,739 --> 00:39:13,459 basically as he went into that when he 874 00:39:17,979 --> 00:39:14,749 started to get into his by on 875 00:39:20,979 --> 00:39:17,989 experiments is where it kind of gets 876 00:39:23,949 --> 00:39:20,989 into life on other worlds and things 877 00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:23,959 like that what he did was he took things 878 00:39:29,620 --> 00:39:26,689 like grass clippings and he would heat 879 00:39:33,339 --> 00:39:29,630 it up to incandescence and then you know 880 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:33,349 put it in boiled water in under sterile 881 00:39:39,849 --> 00:39:36,410 conditions and then he would just lit it 882 00:39:44,019 --> 00:39:39,859 kind of stew for a while and see what 883 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:44,029 happened and lo and behold he's started 884 00:39:47,620 --> 00:39:45,410 watching it and all these little 885 00:39:50,859 --> 00:39:47,630 particles in there would start to kind 886 00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:50,869 of form these little balls and then they 887 00:39:56,739 --> 00:39:53,119 would start to glow and pulsate and 888 00:40:00,160 --> 00:39:56,749 before long he was able to actually grow 889 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:00,170 these little amoebas and stuff like that 890 00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,170 from carbons carbon and and you know 891 00:40:09,069 --> 00:40:06,079 other like Silica's and yeah nothing too 892 00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:09,079 exotic there but he was able to do it 893 00:40:14,919 --> 00:40:11,839 and there's actually a book recently 894 00:40:16,809 --> 00:40:14,929 written by I think it was a Stanford 895 00:40:18,579 --> 00:40:16,819 University researcher it's called 896 00:40:20,140 --> 00:40:18,589 Wilhelm Reich biologist and he actually 897 00:40:22,779 --> 00:40:20,150 went through and looked at all wilhelm 898 00:40:24,939 --> 00:40:22,789 reich laboratory notebooks and his 899 00:40:26,739 --> 00:40:24,949 contention in that book is basically yes 900 00:40:30,099 --> 00:40:26,749 i went through all his laboratory 901 00:40:35,949 --> 00:40:30,109 notebooks he did the right thing he 902 00:40:37,630 --> 00:40:35,959 wasn't full of [\h__\h] no good to know so i 903 00:40:40,929 --> 00:40:37,640 mean is that is the implication that 904 00:40:42,759 --> 00:40:40,939 that process is going on on other 905 00:40:45,429 --> 00:40:42,769 planets even though their environments 906 00:40:48,579 --> 00:40:45,439 are extremely different it brings up the 907 00:40:51,339 --> 00:40:48,589 the idea of otto genesis this idea that 908 00:40:53,319 --> 00:40:51,349 life it's not a one-off thing it's not 909 00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:53,329 something that's all ooh you got a get 910 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:55,609 conditions just right no it's just kind 911 00:40:59,919 --> 00:40:57,410 of like whoa let me let me burn the hell 912 00:41:01,539 --> 00:40:59,929 out of this you know all slappin it some 913 00:41:06,609 --> 00:41:01,549 water here and just kind of let it sit 914 00:41:10,269 --> 00:41:06,619 yeah you don't think that happens every 915 00:41:12,849 --> 00:41:10,279 single day it's kind of like Alan Watts 916 00:41:15,009 --> 00:41:12,859 he says that the earth peoples the way 917 00:41:18,939 --> 00:41:15,019 an apple tree apples it just makes 918 00:41:22,419 --> 00:41:18,949 people yeah I think anywhere life can 919 00:41:24,349 --> 00:41:22,429 exist it just pops into existence that's 920 00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:24,359 what I think the old Jeff Goldblum 921 00:41:30,229 --> 00:41:28,710 life finds away yeah well it it doesn't 922 00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:30,239 look like it easily and he really has to 923 00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:34,470 try it in art that's interesting man so 924 00:41:38,329 --> 00:41:36,150 let's get into the history a little bit 925 00:41:39,769 --> 00:41:38,339 time is obviously flying by and we're 926 00:41:41,569 --> 00:41:39,779 not gonna get to everything we had 927 00:41:45,259 --> 00:41:41,579 wanted to get to I don't think is right 928 00:41:46,729 --> 00:41:45,269 pretty much the halfway point but let's 929 00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:46,739 get into the history a little bit this 930 00:41:49,759 --> 00:41:48,329 you say this goes back to the 931 00:41:51,789 --> 00:41:49,769 Renaissance at least the knowledge of 932 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:51,799 this the study of this in some degree 933 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:55,650 yeah I was talking more about the the 934 00:42:01,400 --> 00:41:57,450 alchemical roots and things like that 935 00:42:03,769 --> 00:42:01,410 getting into I mean that gets into the 936 00:42:06,529 --> 00:42:03,779 whole Ormus ball of wax if you want to 937 00:42:07,970 --> 00:42:06,539 delve into that absolutely what I would 938 00:42:10,329 --> 00:42:07,980 say about that is man of all the things 939 00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:10,339 you shared with me you shared this 940 00:42:13,940 --> 00:42:12,180 documentary this trailer for this 941 00:42:18,319 --> 00:42:13,950 documentary all the gold you can eat 942 00:42:20,660 --> 00:42:18,329 about this Ormus substance and dude I 943 00:42:22,759 --> 00:42:20,670 have not had my mind blown by a vacuum 944 00:42:23,989 --> 00:42:22,769 entering like that in a long time 945 00:42:26,210 --> 00:42:23,999 because I've seen a lot of [\h__\h] 946 00:42:28,999 --> 00:42:26,220 especially at this point but this 947 00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:29,009 unlocked a whole new section like I'd 948 00:42:32,410 --> 00:42:30,660 never heard of this before and it's 949 00:42:35,539 --> 00:42:32,420 pretty fascinating and it ties into 950 00:42:38,329 --> 00:42:35,549 alchemy and modern alchemists and I and 951 00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:38,339 ether theory of course but yeah tell us 952 00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:42,150 a little bit about this so I'll just go 953 00:42:48,259 --> 00:42:45,900 into the more recent stuff kind of where 954 00:42:50,749 --> 00:42:48,269 where it was you know found in in 955 00:42:53,229 --> 00:42:50,759 Arizona that's okay sure so there 956 00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:53,239 there's this guy named David Hudson and 957 00:42:58,519 --> 00:42:56,160 he was like the son of like the head of 958 00:43:01,930 --> 00:42:58,529 the Agriculture Department there or 959 00:43:05,089 --> 00:43:01,940 something like that and he had like 960 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:05,099 75,000 acres or something crazy that he 961 00:43:11,749 --> 00:43:07,650 was farming and you know they've been 962 00:43:14,569 --> 00:43:11,759 farming it for generations and it was 963 00:43:18,769 --> 00:43:14,579 just kind of this crappy soil though it 964 00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:18,779 had this high alkaline content it was 965 00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:21,089 kind of crunchy it didn't really retain 966 00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:25,049 water that well and so they had that 967 00:43:28,999 --> 00:43:27,089 they had to basically go into three 968 00:43:32,359 --> 00:43:29,009 rotations on it in order to be able to 969 00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:32,369 grow their crops and so he decided well 970 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:33,720 I'm just gonna spray the hell out of 971 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:37,170 those sulphuric acid and so he takes 972 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:38,250 these drugs and sulfur 973 00:43:43,250 --> 00:43:39,930 gasps that need to start spraying down 974 00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:43,260 the fields and he's still having some 975 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:46,140 issues and so he's like oh let me you 976 00:43:50,210 --> 00:43:47,610 know because he did some test fields I 977 00:43:51,950 --> 00:43:50,220 think first and then he kind of starts 978 00:43:55,610 --> 00:43:51,960 doing this analysis on the soil trying 979 00:43:58,140 --> 00:43:55,620 to figure out what's going on and he 980 00:44:00,420 --> 00:43:58,150 comes up with this white powder 981 00:44:02,430 --> 00:44:00,430 and the more he looks at he's like I 982 00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:02,440 think this is part what my problem is 983 00:44:06,089 --> 00:44:04,390 but I don't know what this is what is 984 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:06,099 this and so he takes it around a few 985 00:44:11,579 --> 00:44:09,130 places and they're like I'm not sure 986 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:11,589 exactly what this is and he gets it 987 00:44:15,150 --> 00:44:13,690 tested at the University and they they 988 00:44:17,309 --> 00:44:15,160 basically say you know they've got this 989 00:44:18,359 --> 00:44:17,319 this really fancy equipment it goes down 990 00:44:22,289 --> 00:44:18,369 like parts-per-billion 991 00:44:24,839 --> 00:44:22,299 and it determines basically that he has 992 00:44:26,339 --> 00:44:24,849 aluminium and iron and some silica and 993 00:44:28,999 --> 00:44:26,349 he's like that's not it 994 00:44:31,259 --> 00:44:29,009 this isn't this is different stuff and 995 00:44:33,569 --> 00:44:31,269 then they came back and they're like our 996 00:44:36,509 --> 00:44:33,579 quick memo detective we don't know what 997 00:44:41,099 --> 00:44:36,519 it is so he starts playing with a little 998 00:44:43,049 --> 00:44:41,109 bit and what he what he starts to 999 00:44:47,130 --> 00:44:43,059 realize pretty quickly is that this is 1000 00:44:51,749 --> 00:44:47,140 not normal stuff it does really weird 1001 00:44:54,779 --> 00:44:51,759 things if you get this powder and the 1002 00:44:56,940 --> 00:44:54,789 new you put it out in the Sun it 1003 00:45:02,130 --> 00:44:56,950 disappears in a blinding flash of light 1004 00:45:05,370 --> 00:45:02,140 it just pops and and gone and you're 1005 00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:05,380 like what happened and so he started to 1006 00:45:10,349 --> 00:45:07,599 kind of do some experiments he talked to 1007 00:45:15,989 --> 00:45:10,359 help put off actually I think he worked 1008 00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:15,999 at a sir I didn't he I think so yeah so 1009 00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:18,160 he talks to help put off and and and how 1010 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:20,049 put off is basically telling him well 1011 00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:23,650 this stuff's disappearing are you sure 1012 00:45:27,059 --> 00:45:25,359 it's an explosion because he thought it 1013 00:45:29,489 --> 00:45:27,069 was an explanation he's like you might 1014 00:45:31,259 --> 00:45:29,499 be an implosion so what they did was 1015 00:45:33,539 --> 00:45:31,269 they put a pencil and they stood it up 1016 00:45:37,950 --> 00:45:33,549 on end in a little pile this stuff and 1017 00:45:41,309 --> 00:45:37,960 they they exposed to light and Boop it 1018 00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:41,319 goes but the pencils still there like it 1019 00:45:47,609 --> 00:45:45,460 didn't move it's like it's like an 1020 00:45:51,390 --> 00:45:47,619 ethereal extraction of some kind this 1021 00:45:53,249 --> 00:45:51,400 powder well it's like each each little 1022 00:45:56,999 --> 00:45:53,259 grain of it's imploding on itself 1023 00:45:59,700 --> 00:45:57,009 so if it's just kind of like popping out 1024 00:46:01,229 --> 00:45:59,710 of existence yeah and they're all just 1025 00:46:03,059 --> 00:46:01,239 these little grains all doing it 1026 00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:03,069 independently agility adds up to a big 1027 00:46:11,069 --> 00:46:08,319 light but it won't move pencil crazy man 1028 00:46:15,749 --> 00:46:11,079 I've never seen anything like it 1029 00:46:17,130 --> 00:46:15,759 but now what he finally does is he gets 1030 00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:17,140 a little - some Russians and they're 1031 00:46:21,989 --> 00:46:19,839 like yeah yeah you guys don't know how 1032 00:46:26,190 --> 00:46:21,999 to test materials over there in the West 1033 00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:26,200 you guys just mess it all up let us tell 1034 00:46:33,630 --> 00:46:28,569 you what the and Mother Russia hahaha 1035 00:46:36,410 --> 00:46:33,640 you get tungsten electrodes so he goes 1036 00:46:38,219 --> 00:46:36,420 back he gets this piece of sky like 1037 00:46:39,569 --> 00:46:38,229 exorbitant amount of money a couple 1038 00:46:43,019 --> 00:46:39,579 million dollars or something set up this 1039 00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:43,029 test form custom and basically what they 1040 00:46:47,549 --> 00:46:44,529 do is they do away with the American 1041 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:47,559 style of electronic spectroscopy they 1042 00:46:52,589 --> 00:46:49,930 remove the carbon electrodes they put in 1043 00:46:56,670 --> 00:46:52,599 these tungsten electrodes and they rock 1044 00:46:59,310 --> 00:46:56,680 and roll they get alumina iron silica 1045 00:47:06,570 --> 00:46:59,320 and then 1046 00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:06,580 finally get osmium iridium platinum gold 1047 00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:08,920 silver all these different platinum 1048 00:47:13,590 --> 00:47:10,390 group metals and they're like what is 1049 00:47:14,310 --> 00:47:13,600 going on here this isn't is it if this 1050 00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:14,320 is right 1051 00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:19,920 I've got like hundreds of ounces per ton 1052 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:23,200 and that's I mean that's that's unheard 1053 00:47:26,250 --> 00:47:24,640 of in gold mining uh-huh 1054 00:47:29,820 --> 00:47:26,260 if you're if you're in that sort of 1055 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:29,830 range you you are sitting pretty Wow if 1056 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:31,330 that's the concentration you're getting 1057 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:33,850 out of your ore and so he basically 1058 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:37,090 realized that he had something special 1059 00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:38,650 and then a friend of his started to talk 1060 00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:40,660 to him about hey you might want to look 1061 00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:43,660 into some of this stuff in the Bible 1062 00:47:49,230 --> 00:47:47,980 here he's like III he's like well 1063 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:49,240 they're talking about this white powder 1064 00:47:58,050 --> 00:47:55,690 of gold he's like what it comes up in a 1065 00:48:00,720 --> 00:47:58,060 Golden Calf story yeah that's what he 1066 00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:00,730 was pointed to was you know this this 1067 00:48:06,270 --> 00:48:04,000 story of Moses coming down from the 1068 00:48:08,730 --> 00:48:06,280 mountain he's got the commandments in 1069 00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:08,740 hand and everybody's like hey look cap 1070 00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:10,630 he's like what the hell are you guys 1071 00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:12,910 going getting up to - up on the mountain 1072 00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:17,440 so what they say is he took the calf he 1073 00:48:25,470 --> 00:48:20,560 burned it and then it it turned into 1074 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:25,480 gold powder and it's like that doesn't 1075 00:48:31,890 --> 00:48:29,650 work and it says they ate it - yeah well 1076 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,900 basically you know that it's it's 1077 00:48:36,210 --> 00:48:33,520 described in a few different cultures 1078 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:36,220 and one of them is the Egyptians and in 1079 00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:39,010 the Egyptian culture they called it muff 1080 00:48:49,290 --> 00:48:45,520 God and the thing with muff khat is that 1081 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:49,300 it's depicted as a cone on a dish in the 1082 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:51,910 hieroglyphic record and it was said to 1083 00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:55,450 be food for the light body so it's kind 1084 00:49:01,920 --> 00:48:58,690 of like your your etheric body is fed by 1085 00:49:03,390 --> 00:49:01,930 this stuff wow man that's interesting 1086 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:03,400 that kind of makes me think of Graham 1087 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:05,890 Hancock's latest point about the man 1088 00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:07,210 bags I don't know if you've seen this 1089 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:09,250 but he's been pointing out the same 1090 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:11,890 symbol this bag that's in the hand of a 1091 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:12,970 lot of carved 1092 00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:15,490 years whether it's Sumerian Egyptian 1093 00:49:20,010 --> 00:49:18,640 even Mayan you see this same bag and he 1094 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:20,020 talks about it in conjunction with a 1095 00:49:25,470 --> 00:49:23,050 cedar culture I think the most 1096 00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:25,480 well-known man-bag picture is the 1097 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:27,790 Sumerian ones where they have a pinecone 1098 00:49:32,550 --> 00:49:30,310 in the other hand oh well the pinecone I 1099 00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:32,560 mean that this that's dead giveaway for 1100 00:49:36,750 --> 00:49:34,990 the pineal gland right of course and so 1101 00:49:38,070 --> 00:49:36,760 then you see this back like symbol and 1102 00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,080 the other hand in several ancient 1103 00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:40,720 cultures I think Graham jokingly calls 1104 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:43,660 it the Brotherhood of the man-bag but it 1105 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:45,970 is a bit odd and it symbolizes something 1106 00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:48,490 it could fit into a conversation about 1107 00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:50,500 the pineal and the white body and that 1108 00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:55,599 kind of stuff yeah I mention that in one 1109 00:50:00,839 --> 00:49:57,250 of his interviews but I didn't really 1110 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:00,849 know what it was in reference to sure it 1111 00:50:07,710 --> 00:50:03,730 sounds like it could be connected I'm I 1112 00:50:09,450 --> 00:50:07,720 have no idea really well I do know one 1113 00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,460 thing though at the end of their lives 1114 00:50:15,540 --> 00:50:11,440 in the old kingdom the pharaohs were 1115 00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:15,550 sent into the field of Muscat and those 1116 00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:18,790 are the most of the Pharaohs that we 1117 00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:21,730 don't have any mummies for we've never 1118 00:50:27,420 --> 00:50:24,430 found their bodies we found their tombs 1119 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:27,430 but we never found their bodies there's 1120 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:30,010 the idea that this may have helped them 1121 00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:34,089 transmute themselves from a material 1122 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:37,119 being into a spirit being I think that 1123 00:50:41,070 --> 00:50:39,130 that may have some validity because 1124 00:50:45,290 --> 00:50:41,080 there's been a lot of experiments done 1125 00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:45,300 on the Shroud of Turin mm-hmm and 1126 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:48,089 basically what they've shown is that 1127 00:50:52,770 --> 00:50:51,010 there was some sort of radiation that 1128 00:50:55,710 --> 00:50:52,780 was given off 1129 00:50:57,780 --> 00:50:55,720 when that image was embedded on the 1130 00:51:01,050 --> 00:50:57,790 cloth and it has three-dimensional 1131 00:51:03,570 --> 00:51:01,060 information embedded in it and the only 1132 00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:03,580 way that it could have been put on the 1133 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:08,710 cloth was they think well the only way 1134 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:10,330 they were able to reproduce it was by 1135 00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,650 basically doing a polarized scan so 1136 00:51:18,510 --> 00:51:16,720 they'd scan in one direction and then 1137 00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:18,520 they scan in the other direction you 1138 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:20,470 know 90 degrees opposed to each other 1139 00:51:29,250 --> 00:51:24,970 and I think that basically what happened 1140 00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:29,260 was when Jesus was in the tomb and and 1141 00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:31,390 he because there's supposed to be three 1142 00:51:37,530 --> 00:51:34,840 days where your light body hangs out 1143 00:51:40,530 --> 00:51:37,540 around your regular body and that's kind 1144 00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:40,540 of supposed to be the the magic grace 1145 00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:42,730 period for you to get your [\h__\h] together 1146 00:51:47,850 --> 00:51:44,470 and get over to the other side the right 1147 00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:47,860 way so basically what I think happened 1148 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:52,300 was he got in under the wire and he was 1149 00:51:58,740 --> 00:51:55,570 able to transmute his body into you know 1150 00:52:00,090 --> 00:51:58,750 the spirit but in doing so he left 1151 00:52:02,430 --> 00:52:00,100 behind the evidence because of the 1152 00:52:06,270 --> 00:52:02,440 Hebrew burial practices in the form of 1153 00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:06,280 the Shroud of Turin and I think that 1154 00:52:11,580 --> 00:52:09,280 that bi-directional light was actually 1155 00:52:14,190 --> 00:52:11,590 emitted from the pineal gland because 1156 00:52:16,860 --> 00:52:14,200 the pineal gland it actually has this 1157 00:52:21,890 --> 00:52:16,870 pattern on it there's actually kind of 1158 00:52:27,530 --> 00:52:24,650 of activation in terms of the spirals on 1159 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:27,540 it if you know you can see a spiral 1160 00:52:31,340 --> 00:52:29,490 going up around the outside long ways 1161 00:52:34,970 --> 00:52:31,350 then there's kind of one that's at more 1162 00:52:37,130 --> 00:52:34,980 of an angle and so I would not be 1163 00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:37,140 surprised if that was how this 1164 00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:39,900 information was embedded have you ever 1165 00:52:46,769 --> 00:52:44,710 seen what DMT looks like 1166 00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:46,779 when you ever heard of what it looks 1167 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:50,529 like I've taken it I've smoked it well 1168 00:52:57,049 --> 00:52:54,130 it's actually these resplendent golden I 1169 00:52:59,490 --> 00:52:57,059 mean utt gold and rainbow crystals 1170 00:53:02,940 --> 00:52:59,500 mm-hmm-hmm when the guys who make it 1171 00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:02,950 break it up these rainbow Sparx come off 1172 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:06,880 of it it's like yeah 1173 00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:09,010 I haven't seen it myself but I've heard 1174 00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:11,470 and I'm just like well there's something 1175 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:15,670 there I mean right there you're dealing 1176 00:53:21,089 --> 00:53:18,490 with some sort of like physio electric 1177 00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:21,099 but also psychoactive material I mean 1178 00:53:24,930 --> 00:53:23,049 that's that's pretty special there might 1179 00:53:26,789 --> 00:53:24,940 be some other strange properties that 1180 00:53:30,029 --> 00:53:26,799 stuff that you know might be a bit more 1181 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:30,039 unexpected mm-hmm so I I think that's 1182 00:53:34,890 --> 00:53:32,410 it's a prime candidate for something 1183 00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:34,900 like that happening there and I mean 1184 00:53:39,779 --> 00:53:37,119 that fits in with ether model and that's 1185 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:39,789 what I've been talking about so far yeah 1186 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:42,490 I mean it does connect a lot of dots all 1187 00:53:46,109 --> 00:53:44,170 these things are kind of quarantined 1188 00:53:49,019 --> 00:53:46,119 from mainstream society and people might 1189 00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:49,029 get into one or another but it does seem 1190 00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:50,559 like there is a relationship between 1191 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:52,720 many of these things that are just 1192 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:55,930 outside of the mainstream and I guess I 1193 00:53:59,519 --> 00:53:57,490 would ask what more can you say do you 1194 00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:59,529 think this is at the heart of those 1195 00:54:03,690 --> 00:54:01,599 whispers and legends of alchemists 1196 00:54:07,769 --> 00:54:03,700 during the Middle Ages and things like 1197 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:07,779 that so definitely yes the Orbis as as 1198 00:54:13,049 --> 00:54:10,930 it's being taught to people I think 1199 00:54:15,930 --> 00:54:13,059 that's the lesser Arkana 1200 00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:15,940 kind of the lesser work right that's the 1201 00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:17,680 stuff where like okay you can take it 1202 00:54:22,799 --> 00:54:20,529 you're not gonna really overdose on it 1203 00:54:25,799 --> 00:54:22,809 it's pretty safe and it has a lot of 1204 00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:25,809 benefits but then there's the major are 1205 00:54:31,710 --> 00:54:28,089 kind of the Philosopher's Stone as it 1206 00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:31,720 were and the Ormus that you see spread 1207 00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:34,150 around on the web is is white the white 1208 00:54:40,490 --> 00:54:37,200 powder but there's also the red powder 1209 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:40,500 and that's the Philosopher's Stone it 1210 00:54:46,190 --> 00:54:43,010 could also be from what I've heard a a 1211 00:54:50,089 --> 00:54:46,200 solid lump of kind of like a ruby right 1212 00:54:53,060 --> 00:54:50,099 on but that stuff is not stuff you want 1213 00:54:55,609 --> 00:54:53,070 to toy when I watched all the gold you 1214 00:54:59,150 --> 00:54:55,619 can eat there talking to Don Nance there 1215 00:55:02,210 --> 00:54:59,160 and he says that when he was making some 1216 00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:02,220 of the Red Lion which is it's a form of 1217 00:55:06,589 --> 00:55:04,500 this kind of powder powdered gold only 1218 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:06,599 they would keep it in liquid form when 1219 00:55:14,740 --> 00:55:10,650 he was making that he gave lady three 1220 00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:14,750 drops of the water that was used to 1221 00:55:21,930 --> 00:55:19,440 carry his stuff over and he said that 1222 00:55:24,180 --> 00:55:21,940 that she went like 1223 00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:24,190 she she basically I mean she didn't go 1224 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:26,440 crazy because this stuff was happening 1225 00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:29,050 to her every negative thought that she 1226 00:55:36,210 --> 00:55:33,520 had manifested around her hahaha so if 1227 00:55:38,610 --> 00:55:36,220 you thought oh man that cops gonna pull 1228 00:55:41,660 --> 00:55:38,620 me over [\h__\h] he just runs right across 1229 00:55:46,050 --> 00:55:41,670 the street backs up to you says give me 1230 00:55:47,940 --> 00:55:46,060 give me your license man that is that is 1231 00:55:49,590 --> 00:55:47,950 how on earth to have every thought it's 1232 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:49,600 like don't think of a pink elephant you 1233 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:51,490 think of one if you start realizing that 1234 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:53,050 every negative thoughts gonna manifest 1235 00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:55,330 you're gonna create Armageddon real fast 1236 00:56:02,010 --> 00:56:00,000 well why the alchemists kept the 1237 00:56:04,260 --> 00:56:02,020 philosopher's stone the great works 1238 00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:04,270 secret this lady only took the water 1239 00:56:09,540 --> 00:56:06,430 that that was being used to distill it I 1240 00:56:14,310 --> 00:56:09,550 mean it's you know this is this is not 1241 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:14,320 the final product I think it affected it 1242 00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:15,610 for nine months or something like that 1243 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:18,670 Wow and so for something like that just 1244 00:56:23,010 --> 00:56:20,770 from three drops so that's pretty 1245 00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:23,020 dangerous and actually what what the 1246 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:24,400 alchemists would do when they would 1247 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:26,970 actually use the Philosopher's Stone 1248 00:56:31,830 --> 00:56:29,050 first they had to prepare themselves 1249 00:56:34,590 --> 00:56:31,840 mentally and and they had to take a lot 1250 00:56:37,710 --> 00:56:34,600 of the white stuff first because that 1251 00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:37,720 would prepare you physically for being 1252 00:56:44,190 --> 00:56:41,110 able to take the red damn but once you 1253 00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:44,200 actually took the red you would get like 1254 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:46,480 light up a dozen glasses a dozen glasses 1255 00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:50,890 of wine and you and you would put a 1256 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:53,830 little green a bit they said like you 1257 00:56:59,130 --> 00:56:56,170 know that the tip of what you could fit 1258 00:57:01,350 --> 00:56:59,140 on to a pin and you put that in one 1259 00:57:03,630 --> 00:57:01,360 glass and then you take a drop from that 1260 00:57:05,370 --> 00:57:03,640 one and you put it the next one then you 1261 00:57:07,650 --> 00:57:05,380 take a drop from that one and you put it 1262 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:07,660 in the next one ah you do that dosnt i 1263 00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:10,330 dilute it that much and then you drink 1264 00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:15,430 the last glass [\h__\h] so powerful stuff 1265 00:57:21,330 --> 00:57:17,440 and from what I understand that's about 1266 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:21,340 the sort of amount you use for things 1267 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:24,610 like transmutation as well hmm it's it's 1268 00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:27,250 very very small mouths so what kind of 1269 00:57:32,310 --> 00:57:29,830 look at why were they taking it they 1270 00:57:35,549 --> 00:57:32,320 felt it was the you know the way to 1271 00:57:39,539 --> 00:57:35,559 opening a third eye expanding the crown 1272 00:57:42,029 --> 00:57:39,549 on chakra all that stuff mm-hmm and it 1273 00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:42,039 feeds like body as the Egyptians say it 1274 00:57:49,499 --> 00:57:45,729 helps you expand yourself out of 1275 00:57:51,390 --> 00:57:49,509 yourself so to speak hmm so right in 1276 00:57:53,309 --> 00:57:51,400 this realm to quote something that you 1277 00:57:54,809 --> 00:57:53,319 had said to me when we're writing back 1278 00:57:56,910 --> 00:57:54,819 and forth you said alchemy when used 1279 00:57:59,069 --> 00:57:56,920 properly is capable of life extension 1280 00:58:01,859 --> 00:57:59,079 when used improperly is most dangerous 1281 00:58:05,069 --> 00:58:01,869 as a vehicle for life extraction across 1282 00:58:07,319 --> 00:58:05,079 interdimensional boundaries and that's 1283 00:58:09,809 --> 00:58:07,329 obviously interesting that's an 1284 00:58:11,279 --> 00:58:09,819 intriguing statement what do you think 1285 00:58:13,019 --> 00:58:11,289 this could be used for because if we get 1286 00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:13,029 into the idea that the elite know all 1287 00:58:17,099 --> 00:58:15,249 about this that they use this you know 1288 00:58:19,949 --> 00:58:17,109 they use every tool in their toolbox if 1289 00:58:23,789 --> 00:58:19,959 this is something in their toolbox how 1290 00:58:28,469 --> 00:58:23,799 could it be used against the people I've 1291 00:58:31,979 --> 00:58:28,479 heard rumors strobe lights being used in 1292 00:58:34,140 --> 00:58:31,989 in some sort of some sort of damaging 1293 00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:34,150 fashion because they actually contain 1294 00:58:42,179 --> 00:58:39,910 xenon gas and xenon gas is a it's an 1295 00:58:45,809 --> 00:58:42,189 azeotrope with these enormous elements 1296 00:58:47,699 --> 00:58:45,819 in the gas form so in the atmosphere 1297 00:58:50,339 --> 00:58:47,709 there's these Ormus elements in the 1298 00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:50,349 gaseous form it's also in the water and 1299 00:58:56,539 --> 00:58:51,599 it's also in the earth 1300 00:58:58,679 --> 00:58:56,549 it's very mobile very mobile 1301 00:59:00,989 --> 00:58:58,689 basically what happens is with the gas 1302 00:59:04,529 --> 00:59:00,999 form it gets entrained with other things 1303 00:59:07,439 --> 00:59:04,539 it gets carried off so and that's kind 1304 00:59:09,390 --> 00:59:07,449 of a way to think about it okay all 1305 00:59:12,179 --> 00:59:09,400 right oh man yeah that's super 1306 00:59:14,099 --> 00:59:12,189 fascinating because okay so the white 1307 00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:14,109 powder that the movies largely about 1308 00:59:18,499 --> 00:59:17,049 there's people who are they're taking it 1309 00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:18,509 orally they're giving it to horses 1310 00:59:24,509 --> 00:59:20,559 they're saying that it increases 1311 00:59:26,910 --> 00:59:24,519 vitality energy life extension and then 1312 00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:26,920 this is also I guess technically this is 1313 00:59:30,779 --> 00:59:28,569 powdered gold because there's you know 1314 00:59:32,099 --> 00:59:30,789 it tests positive for gold and the 1315 00:59:34,439 --> 00:59:32,109 parts-per-million so I guess this is 1316 00:59:37,739 --> 00:59:34,449 it's it they call it Ormus because it's 1317 00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:37,749 orbitally rearranged monoatomic elements 1318 00:59:42,089 --> 00:59:40,089 God so I mean Gold's the mono atomic 1319 00:59:44,009 --> 00:59:42,099 element most of the other elements kind 1320 00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:44,019 of bunch up in little and little 1321 00:59:49,410 --> 00:59:47,920 clusters and basically once you get into 1322 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:49,420 these clusters there's actually a 1323 00:59:55,770 --> 00:59:52,690 I've got that is called micro cluster 1324 00:59:58,590 --> 00:59:55,780 physics and it talks about the alkaline 1325 01:00:01,380 --> 00:59:58,600 metals and how how they all interact in 1326 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:01,390 these arrangements and way it shows 1327 01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:03,690 pictures and you'll actually see where 1328 01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:08,110 there's atoms being added to this little 1329 01:00:11,820 --> 01:00:10,480 cluster but you can't see the specific 1330 01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:11,830 atoms they're all kind of blended 1331 01:00:17,940 --> 01:00:14,470 together it's it's really weird they 1332 01:00:21,930 --> 01:00:17,950 kind of become a homogeneous mass as it 1333 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:21,940 were they're all entangled and they're 1334 01:00:27,690 --> 01:00:25,330 superconducting to a lot of these mono 1335 01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:27,700 atomic elements are superconducting Wow 1336 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:30,550 I'm not sure about the base metals but I 1337 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:33,810 know the platinum group elements are 1338 01:00:39,630 --> 01:00:36,250 superconducting especially the gold hmm 1339 01:00:42,090 --> 01:00:39,640 if I was going to list the properties I 1340 01:00:45,690 --> 01:00:42,100 would say that there's there's life 1341 01:00:50,690 --> 01:00:45,700 extension there's superconductivity 1342 01:00:57,930 --> 01:00:53,540 transmutation teleportation and 1343 01:01:02,040 --> 01:00:57,940 levitation hmm and that actually bears 1344 01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,050 into the history of alchemy and the rise 1345 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:04,000 of the breakaway civilization right 1346 01:01:11,010 --> 01:01:07,570 because I believe that it was alchemists 1347 01:01:12,990 --> 01:01:11,020 who were developing this stuff late in 1348 01:01:17,660 --> 01:01:13,000 the 19th century in the middle to late 1349 01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:17,670 19th century who actually created the 1350 01:01:22,650 --> 01:01:19,510 foundations and the roots of the 1351 01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:22,660 breakaway civilization yeah I totally 1352 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:24,190 see that I think that makes perfect 1353 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:26,530 sense and you're probably onto something 1354 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:30,130 there so man I guess obviously you're 1355 01:01:33,090 --> 01:01:31,690 not selling a book today I mean is there 1356 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:33,100 anything you'd want to plug or any 1357 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:34,810 contact info you'd want to give out 1358 01:01:40,050 --> 01:01:36,250 should people just find you on those 1359 01:01:41,850 --> 01:01:40,060 plus forms well you know I I wish I wish 1360 01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:41,860 this could come out tonight because 1361 01:01:48,330 --> 01:01:45,070 there is the Wilhelm Reich documentary 1362 01:01:50,790 --> 01:01:48,340 and I would have loved to have plugged 1363 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:50,800 it before today but it tomorrow I think 1364 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:52,930 no way there's three days left but 1365 01:01:59,150 --> 01:01:54,010 you're still not gonna probably get it 1366 01:02:03,190 --> 01:01:59,160 out but yeah that that was an IndieGoGo 1367 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:03,200 thing and and it's it's 1368 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:05,890 some support so far it's raised nearly 1369 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:10,010 $300,000 to make a factual documentary 1370 01:02:14,829 --> 01:02:12,890 about Wilhelm Reich damn it's also 1371 01:02:19,060 --> 01:02:14,839 supported by the guy who wrote Wilhelm 1372 01:02:23,290 --> 01:02:19,070 Reich biologist damn in that and that is 1373 01:02:27,970 --> 01:02:23,300 James II strict PhD and it's from the 1374 01:02:30,310 --> 01:02:27,980 Harvard Press so but it's supposed to be 1375 01:02:33,490 --> 01:02:30,320 I mean this guy went to I think like 1376 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:33,500 four or five different countries maybe 1377 01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:35,570 three or four different countries but he 1378 01:02:40,210 --> 01:02:37,510 went all around the world trying to find 1379 01:02:42,970 --> 01:02:40,220 information about Wilhelm Reich he 1380 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:42,980 visited organon he visited Norway 1381 01:02:50,910 --> 01:02:48,530 Germany and Iggy he went through 1382 01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:50,920 everything he could find all available 1383 01:02:57,370 --> 01:02:55,520 information even Reich's FBI file and he 1384 01:02:58,900 --> 01:02:57,380 put this documentary together from it 1385 01:03:01,359 --> 01:02:58,910 and I think that it's something that 1386 01:03:04,359 --> 01:03:01,369 really really deserves support he didn't 1387 01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:04,369 get enough he was looking for a hundred 1388 01:03:07,569 --> 01:03:06,079 and eighty thousand in this round of 1389 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:07,579 financing but he only got about a 1390 01:03:13,150 --> 01:03:11,810 hundred six thousand so far so I'm sure 1391 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:13,160 he's gonna probably do another round of 1392 01:03:16,510 --> 01:03:14,810 financing it'd be really great if people 1393 01:03:19,410 --> 01:03:16,520 can help right on something to keep an 1394 01:03:22,030 --> 01:03:19,420 eye on yeah it's being headed by Kevin 1395 01:03:25,859 --> 01:03:22,040 pinchy and it's the Wilhelm Reich 1396 01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:25,869 documentary film project edit face cool 1397 01:03:31,630 --> 01:03:29,089 hopefully it comes to fruition but man 1398 01:03:33,099 --> 01:03:31,640 Shema engineer I do appreciate you 1399 01:03:36,130 --> 01:03:33,109 reaching out man I think this has 1400 01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:36,140 connected quite a few dots my mind is 1401 01:03:40,990 --> 01:03:38,510 thoroughly blown so great job on that I 1402 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:41,000 guess take care of yourself in I'm sure 1403 01:03:45,420 --> 01:03:42,770 we'll do this again sometime sounds 1404 01:03:48,670 --> 01:03:45,430 great let me know alright man okay peace 1405 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:48,680 alright alright last day of the month at 1406 01:03:53,620 --> 01:03:50,810 the zero hour slide in another episode 1407 01:03:55,359 --> 01:03:53,630 into that roster and I love this one I 1408 01:03:57,339 --> 01:03:55,369 think these secret science shows are 1409 01:03:59,500 --> 01:03:57,349 some of my favorite guests like wal 1410 01:04:01,870 --> 01:03:59,510 thornhill and Erik Dollard and Brooks 1411 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:01,880 Agnew this one I think was firmly in 1412 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:03,530 that vein and I've been thinking about 1413 01:04:08,500 --> 01:04:06,170 this information for the past couple of 1414 01:04:10,660 --> 01:04:08,510 weeks and looking into it and I think a 1415 01:04:13,210 --> 01:04:10,670 little ether Theory a little electric 1416 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:13,220 universe and this is where I think a lot 1417 01:04:17,180 --> 01:04:15,410 of the secrets are I'm pretty convinced 1418 01:04:19,460 --> 01:04:17,190 I know we mentioned the 1419 01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:19,470 Mandela effect but I can't remember 1420 01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:21,089 which hour was in and I know a lot of 1421 01:04:26,059 --> 01:04:23,160 people have wanted to see that pop up on 1422 01:04:28,130 --> 01:04:26,069 THC so that's good but obviously I think 1423 01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,140 people would like to see a full show on 1424 01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:30,480 it or something more in-depth but large 1425 01:04:35,329 --> 01:04:33,119 chunks of people have memories that are 1426 01:04:37,059 --> 01:04:35,339 just slightly different than reality 1427 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:37,069 that's kind of the crux of this whole 1428 01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:40,410 effect some people think it's proof of 1429 01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:42,540 timeline switching or dimensional 1430 01:04:47,180 --> 01:04:45,119 jumping but it could also be just people 1431 01:04:50,510 --> 01:04:47,190 remembering [\h__\h] wrong the most 1432 01:04:52,099 --> 01:04:50,520 compelling and most famous example is 1433 01:04:54,530 --> 01:04:52,109 those books that we had when we were 1434 01:04:57,770 --> 01:04:54,540 kids called the Berenstein bear books 1435 01:05:00,880 --> 01:04:57,780 you remember Berenstein bears well funny 1436 01:05:03,470 --> 01:05:00,890 enough the real name is berenstain bears 1437 01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:03,480 but barely anybody remembers it that way 1438 01:05:09,050 --> 01:05:05,760 I know I didn't and they call this thing 1439 01:05:11,540 --> 01:05:09,060 the Mandela effect because though Nelson 1440 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:11,550 Mandela died a few years ago many people 1441 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:14,490 remember him dying a few years even 1442 01:05:19,099 --> 01:05:16,290 earlier than that when he was still in 1443 01:05:22,670 --> 01:05:19,109 prison but honestly these things happen 1444 01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:22,680 everybody knows the famous line Luke I 1445 01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:23,520 am your father 1446 01:05:29,150 --> 01:05:26,640 right well that line is actually never 1447 01:05:31,579 --> 01:05:29,160 said in the movie the real line when 1448 01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:31,589 Luke says Uncle Ben said that you killed 1449 01:05:38,030 --> 01:05:35,310 my father Vader says no I am your father 1450 01:05:39,620 --> 01:05:38,040 but nobody remembers it that way and I 1451 01:05:42,380 --> 01:05:39,630 think in this case the reason is because 1452 01:05:45,230 --> 01:05:42,390 when other movies and media want to make 1453 01:05:47,780 --> 01:05:45,240 references to that scene no I am your 1454 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:47,790 father isn't descriptive enough so it 1455 01:05:51,410 --> 01:05:49,530 became Luke I am your father and then 1456 01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:51,420 people just remember it that way 1457 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:53,160 thinking that that's the way it wasn't a 1458 01:05:58,300 --> 01:05:56,010 movie but it's not the real line so I 1459 01:06:01,550 --> 01:05:58,310 don't know maybe CERN is jumping 1460 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:01,560 timelines to get narratives the way they 1461 01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:03,690 want them and Berenstein became 1462 01:06:08,900 --> 01:06:06,569 Berenstain as a side effect or maybe 1463 01:06:11,660 --> 01:06:08,910 memory isn't as concrete as we want to 1464 01:06:13,490 --> 01:06:11,670 believe but leave it to humans to say no 1465 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:13,500 I couldn't possibly be wrong about 1466 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:16,530 something the entire universe obviously 1467 01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:19,410 must have changed I'm messing around but 1468 01:06:23,660 --> 01:06:22,200 it is an interesting kind of effect and 1469 01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:23,670 worth looking into because there's so 1470 01:06:30,980 --> 01:06:27,480 many cases however fun show I thought I 1471 01:06:33,740 --> 01:06:30,990 feel confident that Sherman jr. made 1472 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:33,750 solid case for ether theory and he did a 1473 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:36,570 great job for a first interview not that 1474 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:38,970 THC is really a hard show to deal with 1475 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:41,490 but two hours is a long time and I 1476 01:06:45,140 --> 01:06:43,050 thought he did great I think we'll 1477 01:06:47,630 --> 01:06:45,150 probably do it again unless the feedback 1478 01:06:49,550 --> 01:06:47,640 I get is way off from what I expect of 1479 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:49,560 course there will be comments about 1480 01:06:53,450 --> 01:06:51,450 shutting it off ten minutes in because 1481 01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:53,460 he thinks the earth is a ball and so you 1482 01:06:58,280 --> 01:06:55,980 quote heard all you needed to hear but I 1483 01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:58,290 try not to let that affect me too much I 1484 01:07:02,930 --> 01:07:01,680 try to think back to 90s television and 1485 01:07:05,180 --> 01:07:02,940 standards and practices when a 1486 01:07:08,090 --> 01:07:05,190 late-night host might say something that 1487 01:07:09,260 --> 01:07:08,100 causes dozens of angry Christians to 1488 01:07:13,460 --> 01:07:09,270 write a letter and then the network 1489 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:13,470 freaks out that 0.0001 percent of the 1490 01:07:18,260 --> 01:07:16,290 audience didn't like something when they 1491 01:07:21,050 --> 01:07:18,270 forget that millions of people saw it 1492 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:21,060 and apparently didn't have a problem but 1493 01:07:25,010 --> 01:07:23,130 nobody writes a letter to NBC saying how 1494 01:07:27,470 --> 01:07:25,020 they weren't offended by last night's 1495 01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:27,480 show I think something's going on 1496 01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:29,760 similarly with the Flat Earth people and 1497 01:07:35,470 --> 01:07:33,180 a small loud segment of an audience can 1498 01:07:38,570 --> 01:07:35,480 seem much bigger when they're also vocal 1499 01:07:40,700 --> 01:07:38,580 but I've said it before the Flat Earth 1500 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:40,710 has some really compelling points I 1501 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:43,770 think the show with Eric Dubay brought 1502 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:46,170 out most of those things but I'm not 1503 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:49,410 convinced because I I'm gonna say it I 1504 01:07:54,890 --> 01:07:52,170 think space exists I'm a space theorist 1505 01:07:55,630 --> 01:07:54,900 I hate to be so controversial but I 1506 01:07:58,550 --> 01:07:55,640 gotta say it 1507 01:08:00,890 --> 01:07:58,560 however Ormus and alchemy man 1508 01:08:02,750 --> 01:08:00,900 fascinating stuff right alchemy doesn't 1509 01:08:06,109 --> 01:08:02,760 seem possible until you really consider 1510 01:08:08,570 --> 01:08:06,119 ether Theory heavily and if spirits or 1511 01:08:10,490 --> 01:08:08,580 entities can pop into our reality from 1512 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:10,500 somewhere else why can't alchemical 1513 01:08:17,450 --> 01:08:15,090 materials my simple stoner college 1514 01:08:18,710 --> 01:08:17,460 dropout excuse for a brain thinks that 1515 01:08:21,289 --> 01:08:18,720 there might be some type of connection 1516 01:08:23,990 --> 01:08:21,299 there you could say this realm is kind 1517 01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:24,000 of the science of magic obviously it's a 1518 01:08:28,460 --> 01:08:26,400 bit over my head but I feel like it 1519 01:08:31,519 --> 01:08:28,470 connects a lot of dots and I want to 1520 01:08:34,340 --> 01:08:31,529 find more guests on this sort of topic 1521 01:08:36,380 --> 01:08:34,350 now for sure as for the Plus show we got 1522 01:08:38,030 --> 01:08:36,390 into another fascinating saga that 1523 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:38,040 hasn't been mentioned on THC but I 1524 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:40,410 almost had the author of this book 1525 01:08:44,660 --> 01:08:42,210 secrets of del Chou 1526 01:08:47,059 --> 01:08:44,670 on his name is Dennis Crenshaw but we 1527 01:08:49,729 --> 01:08:47,069 lost touch because he's pretty much off 1528 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:49,739 the grid and then synchronistically my 1529 01:08:54,860 --> 01:08:52,410 next guest Jumanji near brings up the 1530 01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:54,870 Sonora Aero Club which is what that book 1531 01:09:00,370 --> 01:08:57,359 is about and this very same secret 1532 01:09:03,019 --> 01:09:00,380 society of airship Flyers and borderline 1533 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:03,029 alchemists may be the earliest 1534 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:04,890 inclinations of a type of breakaway 1535 01:09:10,459 --> 01:09:07,770 civilization using these texts it is 1536 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:10,469 great stuff super interesting we talk 1537 01:09:15,289 --> 01:09:12,810 about other fascinating stuff in the 1538 01:09:18,289 --> 01:09:15,299 Plus show and Shema genera adds some 1539 01:09:20,419 --> 01:09:18,299 logs to the Stephen Hawking human puppet 1540 01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:20,429 fire that I had mentioned a few weeks 1541 01:09:24,919 --> 01:09:22,799 ago but now I'm pretty convinced that 1542 01:09:28,430 --> 01:09:24,929 they are using a different guy entirely 1543 01:09:31,340 --> 01:09:28,440 myles Mathis has worked on this and a 1544 01:09:32,959 --> 01:09:31,350 lot of people sent me his work I'm gonna 1545 01:09:35,660 --> 01:09:32,969 try to get him on but he makes a pretty 1546 01:09:37,729 --> 01:09:35,670 strong case the bone structure looks 1547 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:37,739 like it changed somewhere in the late 1548 01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:40,770 80s but man so much packed in here today 1549 01:09:45,019 --> 01:09:43,440 I hope you liked it I'm gonna get out of 1550 01:09:47,450 --> 01:09:45,029 here but if you enjoyed this episode 1551 01:09:49,849 --> 01:09:47,460 sign up for plus and if you already have 1552 01:09:52,189 --> 01:09:49,859 then get on the forums and get deep with 1553 01:09:54,229 --> 01:09:52,199 sh'mon janae or he's on there trying to 1554 01:09:56,900 --> 01:09:54,239 start conversation screaming into the 1555 01:09:58,760 --> 01:09:56,910 abyss maybe now some responses will pop 1556 01:10:01,880 --> 01:09:58,770 up I'm sure we can get a conversation 1557 01:10:03,890 --> 01:10:01,890 going around these subjects so join that 1558 01:10:06,380 --> 01:10:03,900 party and I'll see you next time that's 1559 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:06,390 it for me your move sorcerer's of Sonora 1560 01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:08,250 keepers of secret Sciences and 1561 01:10:14,510 --> 01:10:11,520 alchemical quarantine errs your [\h__\h] 1562 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:19,670 woke up this morning with light in my 1563 01:10:28,510 --> 01:10:25,010 eyes and then realized it was done 1564 01:10:43,090 --> 01:10:34,130 it was the light coming down from the 1565 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:48,530 must be those strangers that come every 1566 01:10:59,650 --> 01:10:53,730 night who's a saucer-shaped a light put 1567 01:11:05,180 --> 01:10:59,660 people up tight the blue-green 1568 01:11:14,300 --> 01:11:05,190 footprints left glow-in-the-dark I hope 1569 01:11:21,900 --> 01:11:20,460 mr. spaceman won't you please take me 1570 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:21,910 along 1571 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:29,770 I won't do anything wrong hey mr. 1572 01:11:40,750 --> 01:11:35,410 spaceman won't you please take me along 1573 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:45,630 hold up this money 1574 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:49,170 quite weird I had it slide 1575 01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:03,200 open my window lake written my name so 1576 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:17,060 today's 1577 01:12:27,530 --> 01:12:18,750 take me 1578 01:12:30,500 --> 01:12:27,540 I won't do anything wrong hey mr. 1579 01:12:38,770 --> 01:12:30,510 spaceman 1580 01:12:38,780 --> 01:12:40,959 Hey 1581 01:12:50,229 --> 01:12:44,200 this face man 1582 01:13:02,410 --> 01:12:50,239 want to please take me alone I won't do 1583 01:13:05,899 --> 01:13:02,420 anything why don't you please take me 1584 01:13:23,550 --> 01:13:05,909 along the high side 1585 01:13:27,460 --> 01:13:25,870 hey guys thanks for listening to the 1586 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:27,470 first hour of the higher side chats 1587 01:13:31,870 --> 01:13:29,810 podcast with me Greg Carl wood if you 1588 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:31,880 don't know there is a second hour to all 1589 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:34,250 the episodes we do around here generally 1590 01:13:37,660 --> 01:13:35,930 we're able to get a lot deeper into the 1591 01:13:39,670 --> 01:13:37,670 topics and ideas that a guest is about 1592 01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:39,680 so if you enjoyed what you've heard from 1593 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:42,800 THC for free consider signing up at the 1594 01:13:46,750 --> 01:13:44,690 higher side chats plus com 1595 01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:46,760 to get the second hour of the 5 shows I 1596 01:13:51,190 --> 01:13:49,310 put together each month I never really 1597 01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:51,200 wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast 1598 01:13:54,700 --> 01:13:52,910 but I really hate the idea of 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like a particular song you've heard 1640 01:15:20,740 --> 01:15:18,410 close the show out recently come get the 1641 01:15:22,780 --> 01:15:20,750 mp3 I should also mention that if you 1642 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:22,790 don't like the idea of paying $5 1643 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:25,130 recurring every month I get that you can 1644 01:15:29,650 --> 01:15:27,290 buy three months six months or a year 1645 01:15:31,390 --> 01:15:29,660 upfront and just be done with it I have 1646 01:15:33,940 --> 01:15:31,400 plenty of listeners who send checks and 1647 01:15:35,980 --> 01:15:33,950 money orders to the PIO box too I try to 1648 01:15:36,220 --> 01:15:35,990 make it as easy for people as I can and 1649 01:15:37,690 --> 01:15:36,230 you 1650 01:15:40,420 --> 01:15:37,700 read more about it on the signup page 1651 01:15:42,130 --> 01:15:40,430 also be sure to check out the FAQ help 1652 01:15:43,780 --> 01:15:42,140 page on the plus site if you have any 1653 01:15:45,670 --> 01:15:43,790 questions or concerns about how to 1654 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:45,680 listen to a password-protected show on 1655 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:48,050 your devices I've highlighted a lot of 1656 01:15:52,420 --> 01:15:49,970 great solutions and one of those would 1657 01:15:55,150 --> 01:15:52,430 be the iPhone app that just recently hit 1658 01:15:57,250 --> 01:15:55,160 the Apple App Store a super kind and 1659 01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:57,260 talented listener made it for us and you 1660 01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:59,120 can use it to stream or download either 1661 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:01,280 the free or the plus show if you're on 1662 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:04,250 Android I'd use pocket casts or podcast 1663 01:16:08,410 --> 01:16:05,810 addict and subscribe to the feed 1664 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:08,420 manually that way I also try to throw an 1665 01:16:13,090 --> 01:16:11,090 occasional bonus shows or QA shows and 1666 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:13,100 I've got a few other weird ideas I might 1667 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:15,290 get to try out soon but I give you all I 1668 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:17,210 can for five bucks and I hope you'll at 1669 01:16:20,590 --> 01:16:18,890 least give it a shot if you've listened 1670 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:20,600 to a few free shows and you find them 1671 01:16:24,130 --> 01:16:22,370 unique or valuable I know there's a lot 1672 01:16:26,290 --> 01:16:24,140 of podcasts out there and I'm just one 1673 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:26,300 of them but if you have any questions 1674 01:16:29,530 --> 01:16:28,130 concerns or comments about any of this 1675 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:29,540 please get in touch with us at the 1676 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:30,650 higher side chats 1677 01:16:35,260 --> 01:16:33,890 team @ gmail.com I also wanted to plug 1678 01:16:37,210 --> 01:16:35,270 the higher side newsletter I'm going to 1679 01:16:38,740 --> 01:16:37,220 be putting out totally free for anyone 1680 01:16:40,750 --> 01:16:38,750 who wants to sign up at the main 1681 01:16:42,340 --> 01:16:40,760 Internet web site for the show the 1682 01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:42,350 higher side chats com 1683 01:16:45,970 --> 01:16:44,210 you can also get on that email list 1684 01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:45,980 through the higher side chats Facebook 1685 01:16:49,780 --> 01:16:48,320 page there's a button there as well but 1686 01:16:52,300 --> 01:16:49,790 the reason I'm doing this is because I 1687 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:52,310 get tons and tons of emails after a show 1688 01:16:56,260 --> 01:16:54,410 goes up asking me about how I feel about 1689 01:16:57,850 --> 01:16:56,270 a particular guest or topic and the 1690 01:16:59,770 --> 01:16:57,860 wrap-up isn't always the best place to 1691 01:17:01,810 --> 01:16:59,780 do that especially if I have anything 1692 01:17:03,700 --> 01:17:01,820 negative to say sometimes the dust needs 1693 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:03,710 to settle sometimes they need to hear 1694 01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:06,170 feedback from you guys first there are a 1695 01:17:09,340 --> 01:17:07,760 lot of factors but I usually have 1696 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:09,350 something to communicate to you and I 1697 01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:11,810 just don't get to do it so on the first 1698 01:17:13,810 --> 01:17:12,320 of the month 1699 01:17:15,610 --> 01:17:13,820 I plan to send out a little newsletter 1700 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:15,620 with my thoughts about the five shows 1701 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:17,690 the previous month and talk to you about 1702 01:17:22,090 --> 01:17:19,730 anything else that's on my mind or 1703 01:17:23,979 --> 01:17:22,100 that's going on and what's probably most 1704 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:23,989 enticing is that I'm gonna give you some 1705 01:17:27,970 --> 01:17:25,850 insight into at least one guest I have 1706 01:17:29,979 --> 01:17:27,980 coming up in the month which people have 1707 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:29,989 been begging for some posted schedule 1708 01:17:34,150 --> 01:17:32,210 for a long time I personally think I'd 1709 01:17:35,979 --> 01:17:34,160 like the surprise but sign up for the 1710 01:17:37,570 --> 01:17:35,989 higher side newsletter it's free it 1711 01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:37,580 comes out on the 1st of the month and I 1712 01:17:41,860 --> 01:17:39,110 won't waste your time with any other 1713 01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:41,870 emails and that's it I appreciate you 1714 01:17:45,700 --> 01:17:43,520 listening I try to give alternative 1715 01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:45,710 ideas and guests a fair shake on a high 1716 01:17:50,140 --> 01:17:48,070 quality podcast expose some deep level 1717 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:50,150 conspiracies without the yelling 1718 01:17:53,890 --> 01:17:52,130 and I hope to offer some inspiration 1719 01:17:55,540 --> 01:17:53,900 that even though the system relentlessly 1720 01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:55,550 suggests you should follow their 1721 01:17:59,710 --> 01:17:58,010 blueprint to mediocrity you can do your 1722 01:18:01,660 --> 01:17:59,720 own thing and live a much happier life 1723 01:18:04,510 --> 01:18:01,670 despite all the negativity in the world